Alien Covenant / Prometheus / Aliens / AvP / Discussion Thread

if you look carefully this finished piece (which is one of the most important pieces in modern art) has “flaws”. that mirror isn’t reflecting things correctly, not only is the reflection of the woman (suzon) off axis but the bottles don’t match among other things. I won’t go deeper into this because it will take away the fun.

this is why I don’t like the way people are talking about this film, it’s like we all lack the ability to look even further into it. the more people are negative about something the less people will feel comfortable about talking about it. you can’t just be like “this painting has errors, yeah the painting’s previous pictures are all near flawless but this one is wrong, is he an idiot, stupid painting” it just makes that person sound like their out of their depth and doesn’t want anyone else to get anything out of it. we all have different minds, if you want to talk about something please god atleast try to dig a little deeper

Reminder that David Lindelof credits Alien as creating the science fiction genre

i knew this already. i was just about to post this. seriously.

Reminder that everyone in this masterpiece of theater lines up to state their motivation as a character and then promptly dies.

Reminder that the struggle between the “Engineer” (what a terrible name, lol) and the squid is just a giant dick fighting a giant vagina, and that you tried to decipher it as a means to rationalize your incredulous financing of this huge turd of a movie

The fact that the other scientists accompanying him in the pyramid were hesitant to remove their helmets implies that the room, despite having breathable air, was not sufficiently tested (assuming it was tested at all) for viruses or bacteria. This is only one of the several illogical and utterly stupid decisions made by these scientists. SCIENTISTS: the people you would expect to know better than to do something so unintelligent. The only excuse for their decisions throughout the film is some airborne disease that impairs decision making skills and rational thought was caught by the crew.

I’m not even going to bring up all of the other dumb decisions and unanswered questions from this movie. You can read through the thread or just watch this video for a good chunk of them. If you don’t understand why a lot of us strongly dislike, or even hate this movie, that’s whatever, but don’t come into the thread acting like a snob.

reminder that even after crashing into another ship, and then crashing again back into the soil that david’s head remains in the same exact place the space jockey threw it down after bludgeoning weyland to death with it. the distractions that the movie is rife with (to keep the mind off how horribly the movie misses any semblance of dialectic on the topics it creates, of which the creation of said topic is equally amateur) are of the same caliber as the script, written by a perpetually smirking overpaid manbaby

so basically

Blade Runner = GOD OMG TIER

Prometheus = WOW SUCH SIMPLE THINGS YET SO IDIOTIC

I just don’t understand this. my wish is that people learn to let go of negative opinions and focus on other depths, this guy has made two very high tier science fiction films and yet you believe (while still in awe and realizations of his other films) that you are correct in being so quick to put it down. they should of kept the script pretentious, because it seems like you guys like science fiction films to give you a feeling of high mindedness without doing any work.

im no snob, I just care about what information I put into my head. which clearly you guys don’t with the psychological fusion you all seem to have with low minded epochs

the directing is the least impressive part of alien
almost everything impressive in blade runner is borrowed or outright stolen

I’m assuming this is first contact but who the fuck knows.
This movie is so insultingly stupid and shallow, the helmet scene is just one of many idiotic moments.

Haven’t seen Blade Runner pal. I don’t remember any of the alien movies either. I am completely unbiased towards or against the director.

I called you a snob because you came into the thread, insulted another man’s opinion, insulted mental capacity, and asked him to write analyses for works of art other than the one being discussed in an attempt to make him prove his worth. I don’t know if it was intentional or not, but you came of as very pretentious when you asked for an analysis of picture in a thread about a movie.

Wow this thread is STILL alive?? Amazing.

Oh and Blade Runner was highly overrated. It took me four tries to sit through the entire movie and even then I had to take a few breaks.

With all its flaws I still enjoyed Blade Runner way more than I did Prometheus.

Why don’t you enlighten us peasants with your insights, Ki Shima? What exactly is so good about Prometheus? If you do that I’ll tell you what I think is so bad about it, too.

My perspective on the situation with Holloway taking his helmet off:

From what we saw with Holloway’s devil-may-care attitude from the get go, it wasn’t out of character. Holloway may be a scientist, but he’s clearly a fringe-minded go-getter; thus his actions, while certainly questionable, wasn’t out of character.

Like I said before, Prometheus definitely has some flaws (much of it probably is due to heavy edits and time constraints), but I think much of the gripes people have is due to the unwillingness to accept that humans are illogical. We do stupid shit all the time, every day. Fortunately, we aren’t put under the proverbial microscope in our own lives which deludes our perceptions on how dumb we are with our choices and compromises.

BTW, is it just me of was Shaw’s body really tight for an archaeologist?

My biggest gripe with the movie is how random shits are.

Example: Black Liquid aka maple syrup.

Case 1: Maple syrup kills alien guy, breaks down his DNA, causes visible harm to his body and kills him in 5 seconds.
Case 2: Maple syrup changes scientist into ???, allows him to impregnate the inconceivable and creates octopus alien baby (!?).
Case 3: Maple syrup kills geologist and ressurects him as a superhuman zombie (WTF!?).

Conclusion: This syrup is fucking random.

Seriously, the movie is just riddled with this random nonsense that by 3/4 of it I’ve already given up on coming up with reasonable explanations.

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space jesus?

The douche guy was a SCIENTIST? I thought he was like an archaeologist.

Did anyone want to watch that whole part hearing their voices through respirators?

Go fuck yourself. I attempted to explain why your precious film is garbage, and I did so concisely. And hell, even tactfully. Then the ShimaSalt started, and holy shit I could have started throwing pigs at you to get explosions of delicious bacon.

I could fall into the Lifestream and emerge a fucking mental infant, and the empty left half of my scrotum would still be able to draw you a diagram (yes, my scrotum can draw, and that’s symbolism you fucking muppet, symbolism for a flap of sweaty, smelly skin being on the left side of a greater than sign opposite you) explaining why positing questions just for the sake of it and crafting scenes meant entirely to lead the plot along by the nose regardless of how nonsensical those scenes must be to accomplish said nose-leading is shitty filmmaking.

You’re sort of like the aliens in District 9, except instead of being an allegory to modern social and wealth issues, you’re just a fucking idiot. And like the aliens, I, the city of Johannesburg, am putting you on Ignore so I don’t have to see dumbass human beings ask me to interpret paintings even the most pretentious of college students wouldn’t find halfway meaningful. Dipshit.

Yes, because maturity is flaming the guy back.

There is no mirror.