Alien Covenant / Prometheus / Aliens / AvP / Discussion Thread

Well obviously that’s what the sequel is for.

I certainly fucking hope not. They have a lot of more important shit to explain than whether or not space cobra impregnates people too, especially considering the fact that it happened on a different ship than the one Shaw and David took off on.

No. Movies have to stand on their own. I would have a greater appreciation for Prometheus 2 in that scenario.

That said, Prometheus the first has left me not wanting to see another.

So I don’t remember shit about Alien movies so I can almost say I never watched them. Anyway should I still go see this movie? And is it a good movie or what?

Lol, jokes bro.

No one will argue the majesty of its visuals and audio.

Plenty will argue the merits of many of its characters and storyline elements.

You could see worse. You could see better.

Ah but the thing about that scene is that it’s executed so well, you know what’s going to happen to him, but Ridley keeps delaying and delaying. Whatever fear Bret had fades, he starts washing his face in the dripping water, just when you start getting comfortable then BAAM!!:eek: :rofl:

Unfortunately for Prometheus only the abortion scene raise the same level of suspense created in the original Alien.

Checkout this fanmade trailer :tup:

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he broke from the group because he didnt expect the chestbuster to be 6’6 foot tall alien with the ability to scale walls… stupid, maybe… but no that stupid.

Basically this.

What lifeform on earth goes from a foot tall to 6 feet tall in less than a couple days at most.

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BUT an alien creature just ripped out of a crew member, for all he knew that thing could’ve been like a snake and had some sort of poison.

not really a spoiler, but big chunk of off topic post

Spoiler

Blade Runner fanatic as well as Alien, so basically…

Theatrical & International Cuts have voice over that tells you what Deckard is doing on screen, but it’s mostly expository and doesn’t give much insight to what he’s thinking, and when it does, you knew it already.
The DC versions end with the elevator closing, this one has the happy ending where Deckard and Rachel are driving off into the sunset in a heavily forested area. The footage they used were outtakes from Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining.
International Cut Deckard shoots Pris 3 times, gets an extra finger broken by Batty and shows the nail Batty pushes through his palm going through the back of his hand.

The Workprint is largely similar to the Final Cut content-wise, but Vangelis hadn’t completed the soundtrack so the last 40 minutes or so have temp audio tracks from Jerry Goldsmith’s Alien score and a few others movies

The 1992 DC is largely similar to the Final Cut, but omits the voice over and the film closes with the elevator doors closing. The biggest change is the addition of Deckard’s unicorn dream, which further fueled the Deckard a replicant? debate, since Deckard finding Gaff’s origami unicorn is a clue that Gaff knows Deckard’s thoughts.

Final Cut:
No voiceover again, no happy ending.
The did ADR with Harrison Ford’s son so the dialogue matches the onscreen action when Deckard’s talking with the snake maker.
They added a high angle shot of the city streets before Deckard finds Zhora.
For Zhora’s death, they digitally replaced the stuntwoman’s head(one of the most glaring visual errors in the film) with Joanna Cassidy’s so it matches up.
Batty’s line is changed from “I want more life, fucker” to “I want more life, father”, which was an originally an alternate take for TV broadcasts, but Scott wanted to push the father/son aspect of Tyrell/Batty a bit more in the FC.

Right, but he probably wasn’t expecting something so small to hunt something so much bigger than it. Even when he finds the shed skin, that doesn’t automatically equate to its now bigger than me.

Also remember that they found the cat cause they expected it to still be that small.

Agreed. It’s a total copout to deliver an incomplete product and then talk about how the sequel will solve the problems.

DVD is it’s own market. they just know that instead of watching the film and then buying the same film you’ve paid the same to watch isn’t as successful as releasing a DVD/blu ray with lots of media in it.

any film that you watch that will have a sequal has questions, the thing is he’s making the public more interested in finding clues and ideas within the film, which is how it should be. hundreds of people work for months sometimes years on ONE film. why should it be packaged like a pop song or something. I thought we read to stimulate our minds

DVD releases can have extra features that don’t involve making an incomplete film whole. The Incredibles is one example of many.

And no, not every film with a sequel in the works gets a free pass to be shitty. Films without sequels can have questions too. Compare Prometheus to Inception; the latter has compelling unanswered questions like “is he dreaming in the end?”; the former has moronic unanswered questions like “why did they take their helmets off in an alien ecosystem?”

Films have to stand on their own. If you’re going to leave a question unanswered, ensure it’s with purpose, a purpose that serves the narrative. Otherwise you’re making high school fanfiction. Or you should move to Japan and try to get a gig in anime; it’s full of shit like that.

Fair point about inception, but would you be okay with the film if everything but the big question was left for the sequel?

With Inception? Probably not. It’s pretty self-contained and whole and complete and makes me man moist.

With Prometheus? I think I’d have to see the characters acting more like they actually would first. If the characters were stellar I’d have less issue with ambiguity for the sake of ambiguity. Less, mind you; not none.

the helmet question? you’ve chosen to highlight a dumb question when there are many. I don’t even see why people are asking when this is set 70 years in the future. even today we’re able to scan interior for air. :confused:

not to mention you highlighted inceptions biggest question, inception being a film that had been Nolans master project for more than ten years :confused:

but you’ve decided to hate the film so I forgive you for being so logically loose

Choo choo here comes the stupid train. It’s making a lot of fucking noise, and being a stupid train, none of that noise is beneficial.

Yeah, the fucking helmet question. Let’s check some facts. I’ll do this in bullets so none of it intimidates you too much:
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[]On unknown alien planet they know little about.
[
]Team of supposed scientists who should know better than to test air quality with their own fucking noses.
[]Ridley Scott makes big fucking deal over having fishbowl helmets, because of practicality.
[
]Ridley Scott’s characters, who are scientists, ditch practical helmets on alien planet they know little about.
[/LIST]
Is this too over your head? Should I draw you a diagram?

And, um, no, we actually haven’t perfected the art of ensuring air safety even here on present day Earth.

Plus, it’s totally a perfect sample question for this B-movie horror flick masquerading as A-list filmmaking. Because it’s all over the fucking movie. About the most thoughtful questions in it was asked by David, about feelings for one’s creators. Too bad that went fucking nowhere, unlike Inception’s big question, which was thematically prevalent throughout the entire film.

Yeah, I decided to “hate the film.” Because I don’t like it. Because I can explain why I don’t like it. Because there are better movies in the same genre I do like. You can shove your “forgiveness” up your ass, and if you need help getting it logically loose enough, I recommend finding a slimy alien snake and approach it without any regard for its temperament.

It was fairly evident when he took off the helmet Shaw thought it was a terrible idea, and then when he became sick they thought it was something in the air.

It would be like going to a tropical country without taking your shots. Yes the tap water is clear but are you going to drink it because it looks the same?