Alien Covenant / Prometheus / Aliens / AvP / Discussion Thread

Well I know the 1st movie made a lot of woman uncomfortable since it basically compared pregnancy to a violent abdominal eruption that kills you, so I figured a movie where a girl gets knocked up and rushes to get a abortion while screaming"get it out of me"would make some woman feel a bit uneasy…and the fact that it was a giant hentai rape beast probably would’t help.

For sure it’s going to make them uncomfortable, but the movie was pro choice :lol:

What ? A movie about an alien parasite makes the audience uncomfortable?

The movie always centers around a heroine, the body invasion usually starts on a guy, and the cutting out of the proto-facehugger was the most badassed ‘I’ve got to do something nobody wants to’ scene since Uma Thurman punched her way out of a coffin in Kill Bill 2.

There are a few faults in the movie - the dumbassed biologist being impossible to overlook (until the thing attacks him, which is badass). Most detractors are exaggerating though. I didn’t love the new Predators either, but either of these movies is way better and less insulting to the audience’s intelligence than that last Terminator movie.

Well the alien parasite thing oddly enough was supposed to be aimed at men in the 1st film but ended up making most pregnant woman leave the theater in anger and panic lol. The principle concept behind the facehugger and why it always attacks men is kind of unusual though…its suppose to represent homosexual oral rape which I guess makes sense considering how much dick we see in the designs.

sigh no lateral movement training

The question (plot hole) I have that i don’t think anyone has addressed yet is this…If the atmosphere of this planet can only be breathed for 2 minutes how does the big guy make it from the ship to the life support vessel without a mask? Dude can hold his breath longer then Guybrush Threepwood.

I disagree, I think most of the criticism against Prometheus stems from the film’s attempt to be both several ambiguous philosophical/spiritual statements on humanity as well as a conventional sci fi/horror pic instead of just committing to one or the other.

I saw it in true IMAX3D, definitely not as good as the 3D in Avatar but Scott clearly took a cue from Cameron since the 3D effects were minimal and focused on small details rather than throwing objects at your face saying “hey everyone look it’s in 3D!”. Anyways the visuals and sound mixing alone were GDLK! holy shit it’s an orgasm for the eyes and ears. It was very suspenseful and exciting and most of the cast kept my attention so on a purely visceral level Prometheus was nearly perfect.

Now for the quasi intellectual shit…I don’t want to get into it now but I think while there are some definite plot holes I also think a lot of you who criticize them don’t understand there’s a world of difference between not giving easy answers to hard questions and completely ignoring such questions. 9/10 On my first viewing but that can and probably will change on subsequent viewings.

I also think this thread is a good example of why it’s usually not a good idea to talk about movies outside the movie thread like P.gorath said.

Well, obviously you

You see, if you had actually thought about it you would have come to the only possible conclusion: He had ripped the lungs out of the people he had just killed and carried them with him. He didn’t even have to run over, he just strolled along, taking a swig of oxygen every now and then.
God, you critics and your refusal to suspend your disbelief when watching a superbeautiful movie which shakes the seats. Actually, I get it now. IMAX, 3D, seats shaking with loud noises, it’s just a nice ride and nothing else. I guess I don’t really care about the storyline of a Six Flags roller coaster either.

Should not be. Laughing. This hard.

But am.

Present post still. More cogent. Than Prometheus.

An eight foot tall bodybuilder couldn’t tear someone’s head off with one arm either. How much do you people want this movie spelled out for you? Do we need the scene where they are all sitting around the computer giving expeditionary dialogue about how the highly evolved creatures have abilities X, Y, and Z?

They had a system on their ship that created a breathable atmosphere. If you’re gonna say that they had that just in case we were gonna come over and visit, no. They did it for themselves, because they had to be able to breathe too on that planet or moon or whatever.
Maybe you’re right though. Maybe the atmosphere should have been toxic to him, but then he changed his mind about it, so he’d be able to breathe. That seems to be one of their powers, to change their mind about stuff.

Saw it again for the 2nd time bruvs. I noticed so much more naunces in the characters faces that added a bit more depth, specifically david. But i wonder the black oil/ooze, it was inside the green egg, but when you look at the drop on davids finger, it looks cloudy. so when you see in the olmec room and its oozing out, was there a catalyst already in the vase or did the atmosphere cause changes? Ahhh, i want to keep watching it over and over…

Short answer - he’s an alien
Long Answer - he’s more evolved

I wonder if the terraforming inside the ship was for the black goo, since the goo was intended for use on earth.

I have 2 questions
Is this movie suppose to be the real origin of the Xenos?
Is AVP non-cannon?

I liked it but thought the snake aliens would impregnate the guys. I wonder if people are keeping in mind that Xenomorphs aren’t really around yet.

before the surgry start, that scene is so hot.
her body flexing and love how shes all sweaty and moaning.

PS… even if you don’t like dane cook, aliens are always wet :smiley:

The movie thread is fine, but this is the Alien franchise, not like we’ll see a thread for Madea’s Witness Protection get this much speculation. The Hunger Games thread died an instant death, so if it’s not worth discussing outside of the movie thread, it won’t be discussed.

I think so, though it may not necessarily lead to the origin of the ship in Alien directly.
AVP is non canon to the Alien franchise, and thankfully so after those 2 movie entries. It’s a fun crossover for comics and videogames…

They’re still evolving…the worms seem like xenos at an earlier time in it’s evolution. Creatures rising from the waters and developing legs. It’s tail will become smaller because it’s not swimming, develops them fingers to get around on land.

Except we see one on a primordial earth, where the atmosphere use to be far less oxygen based and I think at some point before life, was actually more nitrogen/CO2 based. Not sure of that though, however it would fall in line with the engineers choosing a moon with a nitrogen/CO2 based atmosphere, and for what it’s worth, the same atmosphere is found where they land in Alien.

Who knows what they breath.

I am so done with this. I really don’t wanna talk or even think about this movie anymore. It’s pointless and it almost makes it look like this film actually *does *make you think and I don’t wanna give this piece of shit the satisfaction.
Like this movie if you must.

I still don’t understand why people can’t enjoy it?

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