Alien Covenant / Prometheus / Aliens / AvP / Discussion Thread

I can buy that actually. But that would throw us even more plot holes. The ship they came across in alien had an engineer still in the cockpit with his chest burst open. The cargo hold had eggs in it instead of those containers.

So either the containers evolved into eggs, or these mother fuckers started breeding the xenomorphs after(maybe) the events of prometheus. I’m leaning towards the latter.

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[spoiler=]If the Engineers still have their homeworld and David’s heading towards it, they could have simply abandoned this project and shut the planet down. The experiment became infected so the Engineers quarantine it. Even with the alien that pops out of the Engineer, that thing had human teeth, so there’s more steps in the xenomorph evolution that needs to happen, unless there’s some planetary catastrophe that forces the Xeno to adapt to the harsher climate, but that’s a lot of shit to explain. LV-426 is a raw planet, this one seems well more along it’s evolutionary cycle.

They could simply cold open a sequel with an Engineer responding to the awakening of the LV-223 Engineer/Ship crashing, searches the ruins, runs into the progeny, gets infected takes off in a hurry. Chest bursts, crashes onto LV-426. New xeno that starts laying eggs, infects Kane, another step in Xeno evolution. Ripley and Mother start deciphering the signal in Alien and discover it’s more of a warning than a distress signal. [/spoiler]

Prometheus is set roughly 30 years before Alien, 87 years before Aliens.

Forgot about that mural in the chamber…hmmm, wonder if the Engineers created the substance at all, or if they’re trying to craft into something they found…like the humans with the cave paintings…hmmm

The derelict ship in Alien is not the same alien ship that is in Prometheus (they are on different satellites Prometheus is LV223 and Alien is LV426). The space jockey/Engineer in Alien is not the same but one in the same. The mural in Prometheus also suggests that the Xenomorph at the end of the film is not the first but possibly a something that has existed for thousands of years. Prometheus mirrors Alien only in indirect events but does not lead up directly to the events in Alien.

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this is the best post in the thread so far. the movie makes a bunch more sense if you start drawing logical conclusions between what we see in the film and what ridley probrably ripped directly from here

That has absolutely nothing to do with the reasons why some people, like me, hate this movie. I don’t give a single shit about the film’s underlying meaning or the questions it raised, because everything on the surface stank so bad that I see no point in digging any deeper.

IMO if it weren’t for the underlining philosophy and mythology this would be Ridley’s Avatar.

The more attention I pay to the details the more glaring the logical inconsistencies become.
2001 had plenty of answers. Characters actually behaved logically and it was pretty clear what their motivations were. By the end you understand what the true mission was and why HAL went insane.
Prometheus was the opposite, there was no rhyme or reason to the plot and the characters appeared to be mentally incapacitated.

2001 never clarifies why HAL initially began acting false, unless you’re talking about the book and the sequels.

Stars.

Because they want us to come see them.

At those exact stars.

Where the machinations for our extermination are being mass produced.

They visited us and told us to go there.

Thousands of years ago.

Because something or another.

Even though old dude at the inception of life on Earth was being executed, and that one strand of DNA was supposed to be disintegrated along with the rest of him.

They visited us. To tell us to go to their death factory. When we got on that level. Because.

Hey, we just made you

and this is crazy

but here’s our star map

so find us, maybe

Hey sweet, Oct 9 2012 is the DVD/Bluray release, with Ridley confirming that there’ll be a director’s cut with almost 20 more minutes of footage put back in, and an additional 30 minutes of deleted scenes. He said the theatrical cut was the “most aggressive” cut of the film that the studios liked–meaning cut stuff for time constraints and more showings.
:tup:to Ridley Scott director’s cuts.

I eagerly await the third director’s cut.

Or fourth.

Whichever one turns out to be the equivalent of no voice over, no extended happy happy car scene ending, Blade Runner.

I look forward to the good director’s cut, plus four or five barely distinguishable director’s cuts after that.

Shiiiiiitttttt, now you guys are dissing Blade Runner for having a box set with all versions available on it, when Star Wars fans would kill George Lucas for the same treatment? Go back to IMDB ya fucking whiners:rofl:

All Star Wars fans want is the 3 movies in the original state in HD. No one wants the “fixed” versions.

Blade Runner has too many versions to.

I didn’t mind the 97 rereleases.

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Fixing the Stormtrooper bonking his head, the 70s matteing and other nits (97) is excellent. Butchering the Greedo scene, filling the screen with random crap just because they can - that’s just terrible.

You lose nothing by not doing that random shit. Sell kids the SUPER DOOPER BEEPY version, sell adults the fucking excellent spartan version.

which makes it more of a reason that a tie in is senseless. we didnt need this movie for us to infer the alien race has probably been around for thousands of years…that’s something easily inferred from the first alien movie. therefore, for me, the reason(s) for a tie becomes irrelevant. so now we know another way aliens can manifest…so? id be curious to hear why you dont think the tie in was forced and why it works well in the aliens universe.

to be honest, what i feel happened is they wanted to make a sci fi movie but it wouldnt get any funding unless they had a hype train of prequel to “aliens” behind it.

im outi

Roberth

Oh good. Somebody brought up Star Wars.

I declare this thread on life support.