#1 Vicker’s said it was expensive i.e it was specifically calibrated for a certain individual
#2 it’s 2090 something, I’m willing to believe that despite the scene being cut the way it was. that surgical technology will be advanced enough to allow a woman who had just had a CC go home a few hours.
Regarding David, Charles/Charlie gives David a glance as they are about to leave for the final time, and Elizabeth suspects David when they try to return Charles to the ship.
I don’t know why all you people are getting so nitpicky about the surgery scene. That’s the beauty about sci-fi set in the future, when something doesn’t make sense or is just silly, they can just say it’s the FUTURE, which negates any need for any logical explanation; very similar to magic based fantasy movies, etc.
Okay, so my own little theory. I’m not so convinced that this is a weapons facility at all. The only basis for that claim is speculation by the captain and the fact that the xenomorphs are hella dangerous, but what if it was just a research facility created with the intention of creating the perfect lifeform? This would give a more reasonable explanation as to why they never attacked us outright. Perhaps we were only intended to be used as guinea pigs and hosts as evolution of the xenos ran its course.
Man, just look at this thread. Prometheus has really sparked the imaginations of a lot of people. Makes me glad that they didn’t just hand out answers to every little question fans have had.
I like this idea for a sci-fi, if a species travelled the universe to a millennia and found no other lifeforms they’d try to populate it with their own creations. I don’t think this idea fits with anything we know about the Engineers and it’s creations (I made a point in a previous post about everything but the crews predisposition for violence).
Prometheus was a disaster. The writers need a level three focus right to the teeth. So many dumb plot holes and utterly retarded actions are carried out by the protagonists combined with a story that had the potential to be quite thought provoking but completely missed the mark.
I had a lot of hope for this as Scott is among my favourite directors though its clear that while the man can certainly piece together a nice looking scene or two, his critical faculties when it comes to script/story are sorely lacking.
Just like James Cameron’s Avatar, I’d like to hope that some hard lessons have been learned from the feedback (that is laden with constructive criticism) that he can apply to a sequel should he decide to have another crack at it. Scott is capable of better, but I dare say only provided he has a solid script to work from. This steaming turd was his SFxT.
It’s called survival of the fittest. If it’s not Earth, it’s an enemy planet.
I think the idea to make the Space Jockeys into Humans before thousands of years of devolution was brilliant. Why they decided to kill is is the next mystery to be solved. Personally I like the idea of a creator trying to kill off humanity - it’s like the concept of Terminator in reverse.
If the major plot points are the reasons for not liking the film, then I really don’t know what people were expecting.
Umm no, we don’t know that. We’ve never seen them in action or what they can do.
In much the same way predators are bigger & stronger than humans, engineers are bigger and likely stronger than them. Afterall look what an engineer who had been snoozing for so long could do to an android within moments of waking up, without so much as stretching a little first.
Dude was still groggy as fuck, and just ripped the head off a being way stronger & more durable than a human like it was NOTHING.
Engineers who are primed, ready for battle, and with highly advanced technology of their own are no doubt more than capable of whooping a Predator’s ass. Predators---- beings that have been PWNED by injured, ill-prepared humans on more than one occasion(Mindgamezz!), despite their reputation as born Warriors.
[details=Spoiler]I’m breaking my thoughts down to 3-4 parts. I’ll start from the beginning…
When the Space Jockey swallows the black liquid he seems to be in shock when it starts to rip him apart internally, at this point I’m wondering whether he intended to kill himself or not.
The camera then zooms in on the Space Jockeys torn flesh, showing his dna strands breaking as the black liquid consumes his entire body… his cells then begin to rapidly multiply… On my second viewing of Prometheus it reminded me of what David says later on in the film, “in order to create life, one must destroy”.
If humans came from a dead Space Jockey, does that necessary mean they intended to create humans or that we came about as a mistake? [/details]
havent read the entire thread. my biggest gripe is this basically could have been a stand alone sci fi movie that was not related to “alien/aliens” in any sort of way. given that i have now seen the movie, i would have preferred it that way.
[details=Spoiler] It’s not entirely clear what the intentions of the space jockey were, but it is apparent that he was after some result by drinking the black liquid. I interpreted the look on his face more like pain and suffering than surprise. As you see later in the film when they experiment on the decapitated head, the facial expression was similar, minus the nervous twitching and spasms.
My impression was that the first space jockey we see at the edge of the waterfall was self sacrificing as the “mother ship” observed from a distance. The jockey even looks like hes performing a ritual when he disrobes and drinks from the small cup. So even though it was not clearly stated, It does look like he is doing this on a pre-historic version of Earth. As his decaying body falls into the life stream of the human species, the director enters a sequence showing how a new strand of DNA is formed and eventually transitions back to an excavation site in a similar world, presumably Earth, where humans exists.
Later on in the film it starts to become apparent that the space jockeys are seemingly disappointed to see humans. The lack of a surprised expression when the space jockey wakes from hyper-sleep implies that the space jockeys have been familiar with the human species already. So it is possible that humans are a failed experiment that the space jockey race has been monitoring. Then later admitted by Shaw when she questions why they want to destroy them after creating them.
A defining scene occurs sometime in the middle when David questions his existence in a discussion he has with Charlie Holloway. Charlie snarks something like “we created you because we could and that is all.” David is obviously not appreciative of his attitude and proceeds to… contaminate his drink.
I think humans were intentional, created with the intentions of either enslaving them or used as an army the way we as humans intended to create robots. But because humans evolved with so much emotion, behavior and more importantly, a soul, we are difficult to control. [/details]
The movie functions just fine as standalone sci-fi (albeit with the occasional continuity nod in the background to demonstrate a shared universe), until that bit of business at the end. It is superfluous to this story and serves no purpose other than to drag it kicking and screaming into the Alien series.
It doesn’t turn out to be a monster. It turns out to be…