What are you talking about? Most of Wolf’s moves come from Japanese Pro Wrestlers, many of which are considered iconic, and belong to absolute legends. Kenta Kobashi, The Great Muta, Tiger Mask, ect. These names are just as big as Austin or Hogan.
On top of that, none of the WWE moves Wolf got were dated.
F5 is Brock Lesnar’s finisher, a guy who’s a household name after his UFC run. Also was very popular when he was IWGP Champion in Japan.
Stone Cold Stunner is in there.
Rick Flair’s chops are there. The Nature Boy is the definition of a wrestling legend.
I shouldn’t have to argue why The People’s Elbow should be in the game. The Rock is one of the biggest stars on earth.
Some moves may be used by newer WWE stars, but most of them were borrowed from Japanese Wrestlers, or from the really old days. He has at least 3 of Lou Thesz’s signiture moves, and that guy was a world champion in the 1930s.
Guys I get you like Alex and alk that jazz but tone down all these requests its starting to get crazy up in here, up in here. Ya’ll gon make me lose my mind… I mean he’s a “grappler”, but that doesn’t mean he should start getting a fukton of wrestling inspired moves. Birdie is a “grappler” but I don’t see people asking for Rakashis ass to face move for him (Mika dont count).
Face it Alex will probably look something like this:
-Flash chops are the same, EX knocksdown
-CC cr.hp, f.hp, s.hk
-stomps are the same
-spiral DDT if its in hops over fireballs
-powerbombs are the same more or less
-knee press idk
-elbow slash eill probably be Necalli short styled charge
-VReversal is a flash chop with him going “uooowhaaaaa!!”
-VTrigger be a 3 bar stun gun headbutt
-VSkill his taunt which boosts his powerbombs otherwise a chop or if they go crazy his DDT
-CA his hyperbomb
I swear ya’ll niggas get a little taste of King in SfxT and suddenly all your grapplers need King styled homages to wrestling.
What if Spiral DDT was his VSkill? Functionally similar to Cammy’s in that it blasts through fireballs and does decent damage to compare to Cammy’s giving you a combo. It’s a VSkill so you can’t cancel into it a la Birdie’s, giving it a more unique niche. I do like the idea of Stun Gun being his VT; let it function both as a “screw you fireballs” and be comboable while doing tons of stun. May really be a 2 bar skill as it would work a lot like Vega’s; you give up the anti-air and in air versions but it sets up more damage afterwards.
Also, I would not be surprised if Elbow Slash was his V Reversal. That would give him 4 specials; QCF P for Flash Chop, DP K for Knees, HCB for Powerbomb, and either a downcharge or a motion for the Stomp. Definitely a comboable grab super.
The real questions for me is what’ll be the properties on his grabs on a scale of Birdie (get off me) to Zangeif (combo into CA, or combo into lp PB) and what’ll be his CA Hyperbomb (360 motion) or Boomerang Raid (QCFx2).
Oh yeah what if they made knee press his VSkill and Spiral DDT his DP motion instead of freggin HCB? ot vice versa like you said. That’d be pretty cool
Dudes really like that DDT… If it’s buffed to be a fireball counter… I dunno. I assume it would have terrible recovery but what would be the real benefit? It would have to do great damage to compensate and if that happens then scrubs will complain about it just like there’s scrubs crying about Birdie’s jump in grab.
I’d rather just have the Stomp and Flash Chop reflect fireballs as his fireball counters. But it goes to show that you can take his move set and go in any direction you want and you’d have something interesting.
Read the quote I was responding to again.
His claim was that Wolf’s moveset was based on WWE guys from that era, and that it feels dated because they aren’t household name wrestlers.
My rebuttle was that the moves he was talking about were mostly from Japanese wrestlers who are considered household names in Japan, and a few WWE guys (None of which were actually on the active WWE roster when Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown was released).
See above for DDT, to add to the above they could also have DDT cause a HKND, or just deal lots of stun with the changes above.
Are you actually insane though with chops and stomps reflecting fireballs? Flashs could just negate them like it always has and stomp is already a punish. They could however add 1 hit of armor to his elbow slash since alot of people have a similar moves that have that property with armor ( Birdie’s bullhead and Laura’s grab for instance). However it should only be on EX if it becomes an issue.
I would like ddt to be lower body invulnerable to get over any lows used in footsie and be able to get crouching characters, can’t remember if it whiffed on certain crouching characters in third strike. Maybe have the option to chain it into power bomb for more damage but not so good positioning or opt not to chain so you can be right next to them after the ddt.
I like this idea, but it could get another animation for grabbing people out of the air and get a lower damage in this case just to balance it a little bit.
I doubt he’ll have a Grab Super. 3 characters already have one. At most, maybe he’ll have a variation of Stun Gun Headbutt back? I’d rather he just have a rush super like Birdie’s.
If everyone was early on in the planning stages there wouldn’t be dates set for their expected releases (2 monthes between each). I imagine their probably talking about models themselves then animations.
