Alex General Discussion: "At ease, loo-suh!" The Alex SFV Thread

metrokard · March 17, 2016, 7:05am

did they just copy paste birdies pants on him?
edit nevermind im an idiot

Korbidon · March 17, 2016, 8:41am

Jonmkl did a great job with those colour edits.

othg · March 17, 2016, 11:51am

Only 2 days left guys :s

Hopefully we can get something on Friday. I would like to hear that he is playable on Final Round.

Frost · March 17, 2016, 5:41pm

Oh sweet kidhero99 came back

captaingarth · March 17, 2016, 6:09pm

Damn kidhero99 back at it again with the disagrees!

Also, I’ve gotten my mountain of fight money by doing story mode with all fighters, and easy and normal survival on all fighters.
I’ve also done hard on one or two, but if you do just the easy stuff you’ve covered almost all of the first season of DLC fighters.

captaingarth · March 17, 2016, 6:11pm

That will also net you over 200 player level if you are about them gold trophys/steam chievements.

GenUser · March 17, 2016, 6:33pm

It’s going to take like 640k just for all the shitty story costumes , so don’t get too comfy lol

Zachara · March 17, 2016, 7:47pm

Welcome back @kidhero99 It’s not been the same without you here.

While true, are you going to get every single costume? I know for a fact that I won’t be playing around 5 or 6 of the current cast which drops it down to around 400K. Then there’s a couple that I don’t like so I most likely won’t get them. That’s another 80-120K off bringing me closer to the 300K mark so when the update drops I need only 400K for the costumes I +Alex. Obviously this is all subjective but that’s my stance on it.

At this point I’m assuming Saturday or Sunday at FR is when we’re going to get the trailer. While it would be nice if everything came through next week, I’m betting the 29th.

GenUser · March 17, 2016, 9:51pm

I’m a completionist so I want everything lol , which is why survival really grinds my gears, but I’m done with survival because it’s boring and tedious but now I can’t get any more deceny fmoney lol, until all the trials and stuff.

ruperttrooper · March 17, 2016, 10:13pm

Jonmkl:

I really hope we do see more skin and hair color changing costumes. I loved that Cammy’s color 2 used to change her eye color in the Beta. SFV really needs to step up it’s alt color game.

ZenTzen:

did they seriously remove these moves

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/c/cb/SpiralDDT.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100724221823

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/8/8c/Air_stampade.gif/revision/latest?cb=20110810121036

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/5/5b/Slashelbow.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100724221952

if so, thats a huge bummer, doesnt that make him a fundamentaly different character, and i dont think thats what people wanted when they asked for Alex to return to SF

I don’t think it makes him fundamentally different. He doesn’t seem to be nearly as different as Mika, Birdie, or Nash are, but he may be as different as Dictator is.

I think an important thing to realize about Alex in 3S is that he has a QCF move, a DP move, a charge back move, a charge down move, TWO HCB moves,
and even some unique command normals like his back+HP hit-grab. He’s got 6 specials and he’s coming into a game where most characters have 3 or 4, it’s just too much. In a more streamlined game like SFV there’s no way they’d bring him in without reworking him.

That said, from a gameplay perspective, his new jumping command grab will replace DDP without much difference I would think, and if it’s projectile invincible on EX at least, it can serve a similar function to boot as well. The biggest question is whether his lariat will effectively replace slash, since that’s the biggest loss to his toolbox.

Overall Capcom has taken unfocused characters like Birdie and Mika and given them much more obvious gameplans, clearer strengths, and clearer weaknesses. Alex was a much better character gameplay-design-wise than Alpha Birdie, (I think Alex is a charge grappler done right) but he still suffered from some of the same issues that birdie did by not having all of his moves work together sensibly. As an aggressive brawler character Alex wanted to walk forward, but as a charge character he needed to charge, and it makes the character a bit harder to play and understand. You don’t really know what you should be doing at first with him. That division of his options really lowered his competitiveness on a pro level as well.

Just like with all the characters in SFV, capcom’s design focus is to push them more and more towards what makes them unique, and give them clear gamplay focus. So new Alex maybe won’t be as versatile as he was before, but hey, he’ll more than likely be a whole lot better in a competitive sense than he was before. So there’s that.

TL;DR: New Alex could be less versatile, but he’ll also probably be a lot better.

(But please, let us all just take a moment of silence for how sick the animation on slash elbow is)

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/5/5b/Slashelbow.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100724221952

Word on the street … is that Alex will probably be the best character in SFV; however, it is a shame they removed the DDT from 3s.

GenUser · March 17, 2016, 10:33pm

It would be cool if his ex flash chop was a slash elbow

TZWhiteShadow · March 17, 2016, 11:02pm

I could see this since EX Slash Elbow was really the only good one.

captaingarth · March 17, 2016, 11:16pm

See now that’s using your noodle.

Jonmkl · March 18, 2016, 12:59am

That’s a really top notch idea! I’d miss the knockdown on EX flash, but to be fair, it would be a lot less useful in a game where it doesn’t hard knockdown, so I’d be all for this.

KungFoo · March 18, 2016, 1:51am

They did it with Nash…

Would be awesome.

Jonmkl · March 18, 2016, 3:14am

I’ve been seeing some of my color alts for Alex floating around Twitter and other places haha! Glad people like em!

PredatorFTW · March 18, 2016, 4:33am

Your alt colors edit are neat, but your avatar is gorgeous.

Frost · March 18, 2016, 5:57am

Cody with a sombrero and a taco.

Not gonna ask why, just going to say yours is good. Good job. You did good.

Zachara · March 18, 2016, 2:14pm

Surely you meant Fabulous, right?

KungFoo · March 18, 2016, 4:03pm

You are actually better than Capcom.

Get working on SFVI please.