Alex General Discussion: "At ease, loo-suh!" The Alex SFV Thread

It would hype things up way more if he yells, “WHOO!” after every Flash Chop. He also needs a CA that will connect with the new generation, so they should give him the Attitude Adjustment.

His command grab is a half circle move and his Hyper Bomb super was pretty bad because it had too much startup.

Alex is not and never was a charge character.

Remy is a charge character Guile is a charge character, Urien is a charge character.

Oro and Alex aren’t charge characters they just happen to have a couple charge moves.

You could switch the motions for Stomp and Shoulder tackle to qcf or srk type motions which is what I anticipate will happen.

Personally i don’t really understand why SFV has no charge moves anymore but I don’t see why this would change for Alex who doesn’t rely on it anyway. If they altered Charlie to not use charged moves…

Flash Chop - QCF + P

Slash Elbow - HCF + K

Powerbomb - HCB + P

Spiral DDT - HCB + K

Air Stampede - SRK + P (or reverse SRK + K)

Air Knee Smash - SRK + K

You are correct except for air stampede. It’s charge down, up K. He literally has 2 charge moves out of 7 total specials, and both could easily be changed to commands.

I’m excited. It would be extremely hard and they’d have to go out of their way to fuck him up. He’s always been extremely strong he just didn’t have the abusable BS of the top tier in 3S.

I feel like Alex won’t really need to take the transition motion on any special. The two specials he had that were charge, were charge because they moved very quickly across the screen, a trait of A LOT of charge moves. Movement traversal is a powerful thing, so I think it’s pretty understandable, and I doubt (especially considering the charges we already have in SFV) that he will be pure motion. Of course, if they change the frames on his slash elbow, then it could by all means work as motion, but it wouldn’t be as fast, and likely not as safe. I think I’d rather have the better frame data overall, and make it charge. Especially if he has the charge times of Necalli, which is like .4 seconds or something super short like that.

Since 3S characters have so many special moves, I am bit worried of some of them compressing moves into V-skill or V-reversal – I hate when they do that. It’s like taking the opportunities that SFV has to make a character unique to that game, and instead just dumbing the character down. I’m hoping Alex doesn’t get that treatment.

I think Alex’s base design works well as a character, he was just never up to the standard of other characters in the games he’s been in. Considering the theme of SFV, his amount of tools will likely make him really strong and versatile, provided he retains them.

I didn’t get what you mean. I know Air Stampede is Charge Down, Up + K. I’m guessing how he could become a full motion character.

Slash Elbow isn’t HCF + K either in Third Strike, it’s Charge Back, Forward + K.

Eff that. Keep anythint from that fucker Cena outta here.

Alex should say “You can’t escape!” when landing his command grab like he did in new generation.

Also if someone tries to tech it, he should do extra damage and say it in stereo or something, reinforcing that they can’t escape.

Nevermind yeah I read you wrong.

Exactly, both moves could EASILY be changed to commands. If they could change Charlie who is 100% charge to command why would Alex be any trouble at all?

Thank you yes that would be incredibly lame if they copied a single thing from current WWE.

I like how they gave Mika a stunner because the Stunner is contemporary at this point, Stone Cold is a straight up wrestling legend like Bret Hard, Hulk Hogan, Savage, Flair, Jesse Ventura, SuperStar Billy Garham, Andre the Giant. They didn’t give her whatever the “popular in WWE move is today” from some random current wrestler and I hated when they did that with Wolf because now when you play VF4 or 5 they feel dated.

Alex is part wrestler but he was never influenced by what was current in the WWF or WCW at the time. He has a hint of Hulk Hogan in design, but Hogan is wrestling and contemporary, otherwise he isn’t WWE at all he’s a straight up Street Fighter hence why he’s the star of the SF3 world.

He also has no business being changed or redesigned as most people aren’t familiar with him to begin with.

I have the same concern, since it is easier to pick a special and make it a v-skill or v-reversal (flash chop and DDT respectively e.g.), that would be the laziest solution.

But at the same time it is hard to balance and make all of his 6 specials useful, the same for his normals, but I’d love to see him to keep all of them.

Maybe they can make B+hp his V-reversal with lot of stun… hope capcom doesn’t have the same idea since I prefer an all new V-reversal, V-skill and V-trigger.

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Well he would have to use a lot of combinations of quarter circles and SRKs to avoid overlapping of commands but it is doable and fair because neither Stomp nor Shoulder felt charge-level good.

Balrog has to be a charge character. Dudley already owns the motion boxer niche.

Needs a Macho Man alternate, tbh.

Complete with voice pack.

I wouldn’t mind if Flash Chop was his V-Skill. Considering the move’s properties in 3s it makes some sense.

Really hope they keep the backturned suplexes. Satisfying as hell to land those.

If Flash Chop was the V-Skill I could see them keeping the backturn.

it’s not a fucking shoulder charge.
it’s an ELBOW. god damn.

Slash Shoulder doesn’t sound as cool any way

always bugs me because his elbow is bright yellow with a streak following it as he swings it.
like fuck do you even watch the screen. ‘shoulder!’ ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH