Alex General Discussion: "At ease, loo-suh!" The Alex SFV Thread

I have the season pass and Alexs premium costume is even uglier in motion.

does his ex not have throw invulnerability?

On the topic of charge, is there a way to hold charge when quickrising? I find it annoying being limited on wakeup because of the game’s mechanics…

button quickrise - pp for same spot kk for backroll should allow u to keep charge yes?

the awesome moment when you parry nashes super

I agree. He’s going to have to rely on a pretty fair amount of gimicks to confuse his opponent. After switching from R. Mika it’s definitely a lot more difficult to go confuse the opponent. He isn’t nearly as auto pilot as Mika is.

At this point I’m looking for ways to utilize his headbutt and stomp a lot more offensively, because defensively…they kinda suck. Not sure how I feel about him yet. I haven’t exhausted all of his tools/gimmicks quite yet.

This is wrong, he doesnt look like a trash character… he is lmao.
Will possibly do a write-up later about this (if anyone hasnt already).

I feel you, it’s almost so-bad-it’s-good territory so I use it. It’s not as ugly as his story costume imo cuz it at least modifies that mcdonald’s hair

Don’t need a write up to say he’s a neutral heavy character with only average whiff punish options and not great walk speed. Character can still do work, like everyone, though.

Couple of more things I’ve found out, you can AA with s.hp though its abit wonky timing, not saying its good but its another option. You need to use it kinda early. Another good way of dealing with jump ins is just mk.slash to go under them and avoid it. Never really occured to me to use it in this way, its similar to karins dash or using lauras vtrigger dash to avoid jump ins. Puts you at a decent space advantage to not get tagged but not too far away.

EDIT: I just want to throw out there that I love this character, I was not enjoying the game before hand because I felt like none of the characters really clicked. Liking a character really makes learning so much more fun. Just uploaded a vid of me bouncing a Vega trololol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TigFyhRAcE

Keaoma messing with Alex, I’m intruiged

Yeah, his jump in game feels a bunch weaker because he doesn’t have anything like j.lp in this game. The only jump in normal
he can tick off of is j.lk, and it’s a short stubby easy to AA move, the rest he has to rely on st.lp x powerbomb/st.mp ticks. He’s also not as mobile and ā€œfree-flowingā€ as I’d describe him in 3s. Better character though? Arguably, but not as fun.

He’s also less unique, he feels like a Mika/Necalli remix only with better oki setups and built in mixups but no 3f normals/no dp /no ā€œgreatā€ trigger (his is good though, being able to confirm into a mp chop mixup off of a poke is pretty great). And blah blah blah. I felt like all his jump normals would be the same, because Mika/Necalli and the rest that kinda sorta feel the niche had mediocre jump game, but they didn’t for some reason.

On the plus side all his mixup stuff also serves as kinda good anti-fireball stuff, but I’m still miffed all his chops are so slow.
And how j.mk is so stubby compared to 3s. The only really great jump button he has is j.hk I think.

Anyone have an image of Alex his first 10 color variations?
I swear, things like that should be in the game :angry:

EDIT: One of his story outfit would also be very much appreciated.

AA aside, what’s his best answer to up-close pressure? I was using cr.lp but looking at the framedata cr.lk looks better. About the same range (or a little more even). Has an extra active frame, a better frame in recovery, and then you have the cr.lk > st.lp x lp/ex chop combo, I think it’s his best defensive button (and poke too).

Oh, and let’s talk about EX Headbutt. Another useless EX move or a good one? Bigger damage/bigger stun and fastest startup, but it doesn’t add anything to his mixup that ex stomp doesn’t, besides the damage/stun. I guess it’s only here for a round ender/stun?

One final thing! I’ve been using lp headbutt (held close to you) to defend against dash in throw. Works a lot like lk stomp eating people going in for the throw in 3s, anyone else use it for this? Actually, maybe that’s what EX headbutt would be good for…

EX Headbutt goes full screen so you can use it as an escape from the corner.

I’m frankly disappointed in Alex. He’s playable, but his footsies don’t make up for his weaknesses, nor is his upclose game particularly good considering his speed. I’m sure some people will make him work but they’ll do it in spite of Alex not because of him imo. Would be nice to be proven wrong but unless there’s some really fancy tech yet to be discovered with him that counters all the yet to be discovered tech with the other characters, I doubt it.

I can’t imagine any player style that would succeed with Alex that wouldn’t do better with another character. That really pisses me off.

Consider this, I’m a Mika player wanting to switch because I didn’t really care that much for Mika. I wanted to play Alex. Now I’m playing KARIN! Hey with Mika I had to touch you up close to get the big damage. Now you just lose when I touch you anytime. #thankscapcom

SFV characters in a nutshell, if you’re doing good with one character, you’ll do ever better with a similar one (but better).

And what footsies? Half of his moves are either too slow or get beaten by other moves pretty often (like st.MK, this move isnt as good as it looks). Plus he’s slow, big (gets crossup as easily as Zangief), has poor defenses (his anti-airs arent reliable at all where it matters) and his CA has some absurd scalling that really is a turn off because he does no damage from combos that use it!
His V-Trigger/Sledgehammer has so few combo options that it really hurts his potential off the rare and hard earned long ranged confirms… and outside combos, good luck making use of Sledgehammer/Parry.

But can or someone do well with him? Definitely… but he’s still a weak character by concept and he’s not fit to compete in this game because he’s lacking and feels too much like an incomplete character right now.
He reminds me alot of Vanilla Abel actually.

its nothing new to me…Hakan in SFIV, Alex here…guess I’m low tier for life

Fuck man I can’t beat hard survival for shit really want all of alex colors :frowning:

I don’t give a shit if he’s good or shit he’s more fun than the rest of the cast which is boring trash so he’s my main.