There’s a big difference between safe jumping 3f DP’s and 5+f DP’s. 3 frame safe jumps are very distance and attack specific. They require more than just timing. 5 frame safe jumps are just timing specific so they can be safe jumped from any distance using any attack.
As for why Akuma is the theoretical top tier - Because Akuma has a wide array of very good option. His stuff may not be better than others in every instance. He doesn’t have the best fireball, but it’s close. He doesn’t have the best normals, but they are still very good. His DP is the best in many scenario’s and very good most of the time. DF palm makes his demonflip the best. He has the best teleport still, blah, blah.
Point is he has a huge array of very good options all the time allowing him the ability to make a favorable decision in every scenario. Many characters in the game, even those rated higher than Akuma, can be put into scenarios where they have no favorable answer. However Akuma’s big drawback is the more opportunity to make decisions also means the more opportunity to make mistakes and hence he is a theoretical top tier.
Being able to safe jump a DP doesn’t make it bad just makes it bad as a wake up reversal, but keep in mind you use it for a lot of other things. I can tell you that Cannon Spike > FADC > Ultra/Cannon Spike hurts like a mother…>_<
If he U2ed that last teleport they woulda both whiffed and he woulda been safe. Also BP=/=Skill. I haven’t heard of any of those akuma players other than infiltration.
Lol that akuma vs that fei long was terrible. He was either mashing dp (not even heavy dp) or teleport on every wake up.
I guess Ken is top tier: [media=youtube]n7duU65wVao[/media]
^^ lol your also missing that he can FADC out of his hp.DP for all 3 hits which is gold. Basically have an eternity to FADC to safety and chip in the process.
I main Akuma and yeh i allways have huge problems againsts a good cammy… and i agree OP, i dont think akuma is top tier, he used to be a lot better in vanilla.
I don’t think Akuma is top tier. IMO in SF4 he was good due to his ability to stun his opponents so fast. Now you have to dominate 3/4 of the round until you can stun for the majority of the cast. The FA’s in super got ridiculously fast and now it’s easier to FA crumple opponents faster. I get FA’d out of Akuma’s Far RK before the 2nd hit comes out all the time now. The only thing Akuma got in SSF4 was a ultra that’s basically useless…
When you have U1, Buffer two jabs after every s.HK and that solves most focus attack problems because you can cancel into ultra as soon as you see the FA come out.
Other than that don’t rely on s.HK to do all your work.
^ It’s a one in 100 chance, but I was watching one of Tokido’s vids, and he did just that … still got crumpled for his trouble. I guess you’ll just have to pray.
Yeah I know I can cancel it into the ultra but I still get FA’d. Also the st. RH is the best way imo to get around FA’s. Hurricane takes too long to input, shoryu is unreliable at most times, forward mp. is a little slow and walk up grab whiffs all the fudgin time due to most FA animations. Heck even my Demon Palms whiff like crazy even in front of the opponent.
Every time a character becomes high tier, people try to down talk his game to make themselves feel like better players.
And every time a character is low tier, people complain about how bad he is until he becomes top tier.
It’s a vicious circle.
I don’t believe Akuma is high tier though.
