Akuma corner lockdown confirmed(crappy vid up)

[Shirts]

I don’t think this vid comfirmed anything.

[RagingStormX]

I don’t think this vid comfirmed anything.

I was just showing how it looks, but trust me it works, try it yourself. They cant do anything. I have no one here to try to dp etc out of it, but it doesnt matter cause I tested it online already.

[isurus]

Have you tried it, once you get that first one off the others are cake. Im pretty damn sure on stick I could do this with minimal effort. The HARDESRT par tis actually doing the first one. Once you get that you can cover up the other motions during his landing, as you see in the end of the vid.

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In this video, I don’t see why Sagat couldn’t just s.HK you near the end when you were getting the AF on him repeatedly.

[DreamTR]

I was just showing how it looks, but trust me it works, try it yourself. They cant do anything. I have no one here to try to dp etc out of it, but it doesnt matter cause I tested it online already.

Wouldn’t that be the worst place to test it?

[DS]

Who’s blocking with Sagat and why aren’t they trying to reverse? And why are you testing this online?

[blitzfu]

so i had my brother walk in and help me test this shit out. i basically just had him block the first fb and told him to let go after, and i havent been able to get the autoblock on the 2nd. either the spacing is super strict, or its not a perfect lockdown which is what i was assuming, by the way im reading it

Yeah, it’s not a tight enough lockdown to keep you in constant block stun, but it’s tight enough to prevent those 4 chars (Zangief, Blanka, Sagat and Cammy) from doing anything except getting hit by it. I’m not a top player or anything, but I’m good enough to judge that this trap is completely inescapable for those 4, but only in the corner and without a super. Out of the corner, there’s enough space to do a jump back attack.

Go on the sagat stage and on the right hand side there’s a rock on the ground. Place your lead leg over the rock and that might be the range sir. It’s just out of grab range, but still within sweep range. If you hit with it or you mess up and jump forward when doing it you will still land and have the advantage to :lp: :dp:.(Nothing beats this move in hd remix. Well the raging demon does) :rolleyes: Damn you got 10 reps?!?!?!?:looney: I don’t think it’s gamebreaking. Just another trap dirties if you feel like being risky with akuma by getting close to your foes.

You did lock me down for 4 reps sir. Yes those character might not beable to deal with it, but that doesn’t make akuma gamebreaking imo. If you can get the reversal message means someone can escape the trap.

Spacing is important. If he’s too close, Cammy’s reversal Thrust Kick will hit him before the AFB hits. But if he’s at the right spot, even a reversal Thrust will get completely stuffed. And I don’t think it’s max AFB range either, there’s a sweet spot just inside the max AFB range. Like you said Shinblanka, just inside sweep range and just outside throw range.

That doesn’t confirm shit. Dragon punches, slides, just overall good timing of an anti-air move will knock him away, even if the player does get hit by the air fireball. Not like this isn’t escapable at all.

Not if he’s in the sweet spot against those 4 chars. Then it’s completely inescapable, except with a super.

Who’s blocking with Sagat and why aren’t they trying to reverse? And why are you testing this online?

It’s not online, it’s the offline training dummy, that’s why he’s not countering.

[brian]

Any character who can get out of the trap with a super can get out of the trap by doing reversal specials (getting hit by airfireballs) until they build up a full meter.

[isurus]

Not if he’s in the sweet spot against those 4 chars. Then it’s completely inescapable, except with a super.

Try it against Sagat again, and see if he can’t just s.HK Akuma out of the air. Have you tried all strengths of Tiger Uppercut, or what happens when Sagat crouch blocks and then tries something? I would figure something would at least trade or being able to do something that throws off the Akuma player’s timing.

I don’t buy that it’s completely inescapable.

[RagingStormX]

Geez guys, the whole point of this thread was for YOU GUYS to test it. I can’t except online, but Im pretty sure they are fucked until they get super (not gief though) like brian said. Lets try that shall we. You don’t believe then try it yourself, sorry Im not a credible source.

[SaBrE]

Any character who can get out of the trap with a super can get out of the trap by doing reversal specials (getting hit by airfireballs) until they build up a full meter.

lol damn you beat me to it! i was thinking about this earlier.

rsx: no worries man. it’s a good find regardless. just know not many people on here that are competent, use akuma, or dont really care to figure it out online. all speculation and discussion =) nothin but love… no homo of course.

[RagingStormX]

lol damn you beat me to it! i was thinking about this earlier.

rsx: no worries man. it’s a good find regardless. just know not many people on here that are competent, use akuma, or dont really care to figure it out online. all speculation and discussion =) nothin but love… no homo of course.

Yeah I know man. Damn you SRK lol <3. Also at the

[Shari]

Would not intentionally getting hit by the tk air fb just lead to the Akuma player knocking you down for free and then starting over again ?

[deadfrog]

Huh, messing around with juice kick motions on the air fireball was the very first thing I tried with SFHD training mode, but I never thought of trying out lockdowns with it!

Can you make a corner lockdown by alternating jumping towards and jumping away instant air fireballs? (Of course you’d probably have to use a different punch strength for each one.)

[RagingStormX]

Would not intentionally getting hit by the tk air fb just lead to the Akuma player knocking you down for free and then starting over again ?

Yeah or a combo.

[ShinBlanka]

lol damn you beat me to it! i was thinking about this earlier.

rsx: no worries man. it’s a good find regardless. just know not many people on here that are competent, use akuma, or dont really care to figure it out online. all speculation and discussion =) nothin but love… no homo of course.

I still want to see your 10 reps true lockdown sabre!:looney: There is a spot where you can’t move and you are stuck in block stun. I couldn’t super or reversal out of 4 reps of rsx trap. This was online so I don’t know if there was lag inputs or not.

[MoxManiac]

Can’t gief kick lariat out of it? Or if he sees the air fb, crouch, then kick lariat at the right time?

[SaBrE]

I still want to see your 10 reps true lockdown sabre!:looney: There is a spot where you can’t move and you are stuck in block stun. I couldn’t super or reversal out of 4 reps of rsx trap. This was online so I don’t know if there was lag inputs or not.

nah, theres time to reversal. i tried every range, i never once got autoblock in the trap. so there is always room to reversal, atleast. rsx even confirmed that its not a true100% blockstun lockdown.

[blazeu25]

sabre is slackign by not coming to psn and play us. i gave him the game to lol/ u gota come on psn son and get in a room with me shin and rsx.no homo lol

[System_1]

Given that you can build meter and get super to reversal out of it, this is not on paper any worse than the Dhalsim jab yoga fire trap on Deejay used to be or the Zangief lockdown on Bison. Sure it sucks, but it’s equal to lockdowns that are in the game.

Frankly i find a lot of other aspects of Akuma more troubling

[isurus]

I’d test, but I’m still on vacation. I’d prefer to test when my stick finally arrives but I could try with a controller when I get back.