After School Beatdown (SSFIV 2 vs 2 Team Tourny 10-30-10)

We are not moving the tournament. End of discussion. Don’t try to act like hot shit online. Get real. I already told you we told him no. How was that not clear???

Glare was a real bitch at the tourney, but that was pretty much it. I’m glad it wasnt raining hardcore, cause that would be even worse. Though getting exposure like Uwajimaya is pretty cool. Frankly, theres only 3-4 teams confirmed, it doesnt sound like it was terribly hard to schedule that tourney in the first place.

Pasqual - Horrible! Well, the only BB scene is 2 people in Vancouver, and 4 people in Salem. Kind of a sad state of affairs. And GG… me and Alex were the only ones who played consistantly, and last time I played he was a joke. Shame, but I didn’t expect it to last long.

Team SBTG Smash Brothers is taking this shiii!!!

The only one acting is you man. I’m just trying to help someone who helps out the community far more than your sorry ass.

As for “Getting real,” I’ll take you out online or off. Any time, any place. That’s just facts. In the mean time, you should learn some respect. Telling people you’ll “give them the benefit of the doubt” makes you sound like some sort of merciful master over us all.

The glare and rain are the only things i’d be worried about also. Won’t know till that week, but it doesn’t really look good. Something i’m going to mention to Sammie anyway

LMAO why are you so butt hurt now?

  1. “Get real” means stop taking online so seriously and control your emotions. Your a grown man… seriously. Act like it.

  2. Learn some respect? How about you approach one of the tournaments organizers and discuss the situation with them BEFORE you post online and try to relocate the tournament without consulting anyone first. Thats a total LACK OF RESPECT.

  3. I “give you the benefit of the doubt” because If you KNEW Sammie and Joe already talked, I would ASSUME you wouldn’t be a total tool and post anyways when 1 of the tournament organizers already gave him an answer. It wasn’t condescending in any way.

Yo!

   Your taking shit mad wrong. Keoni talked to me about the possibility of moving the tournament last night. He had no idea about sammy had done previously about getting the tournament moved. I even told him that there was more then likely gonna be some resistance to the idea. All he was trying to due was ATLEAST MAKE A EFFORT for someone who has given HELLA EFFORT TO THIS SCENE.

    The way you responded to his post was pretty much " How DARE YOU " type shit. Its like you think Keoni is somehow trying to sabotage your tournament on some level, When its clear as day that he was merely throwing something out there. Keoni has never in his short lifetime here in this scene but try to support what people are doing here. For you to assume anything else by saying " ill give you the benefit of the doubht " is pretty much bad on you and nobody likes a " holier then thou " attitude.


   Way i look at it. " the same thing i said to Keoni " is Sammie should have gotten on the ball with this awhile ago. It kinda seemed he planed stuff without investigating his consumer " Us the players " and heard about this tournament going on at the tilt and HOPED people would make the adjustment. Which is kinda bad b/c you cant reasonably expect people running a tournament to just change venues on whim without a solid reason and HELLA advance notice. THats kinda disrespectful to tilt to flip it, when they expect a event to occur and they are gracious enough to let tourneys happen there for years and they put hella effort into making them happen. Better planning is needed next time, its really critcal in the SF scene and video game scene all together.

Again, the only one who’s been acting has been you. Period. I’ve just been trying to help, and this has been a continuing thing between us…every thing i’ve tried to offer up, contribute with, or offer alternative to you’ve seem to have taken as an attack on your children. You come across way more aggressive, possessive and “holier than thou” than is warranted at all.

I approached the community to ask THEIR opinion, which INCLUDE the organizers. Sammie hit me last night and i hit up here. Period. No ulterior motive no disrespect to the organizers, just maximum exposure in the most minimum of time. Besides, if the players want it elsewhere be it to support Sammie or for any other reason, it’s best to let them know there is an option.

The point is, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to give ME the “benefit of the doubt”. You ain’t shit. It’s all about the wording. You placed yourself in a position above me verbally. You aren’t, and i refuse to be talked down to by a punk like you. In any case, even if you and joe said no, if everyone else was interested in a venue change, the should know there’s an option.

I agree that a lot of effort has gone into this and sammie should have throught it out MUCH better. I don’t care if you move it or not, i promised my friend who’s done a SHIT TON for this community that i’d try to get said community to come over. But i’ll be the first to say that if shit’s raining i don’t want my equipment outside.

The one who should “get real” is you. you got all butt hurt and threatened just because of a post asking if anyone would be interested in moving it. All i did was call you out on being a condescending asshole about my even asking

Omne: The “how dare you” type shit is EXACTLY what it was. Imagine this was PSU Bragging Rights. It’s a week before the tournament is scheduled. Now all of a sudden Panda posts in the thread and says “Hey there is gonna be a big event at this other venue. I wanna have Bragging rights over there. Everyone reply quickly so we can get this going”. If Panda made no attempt to consult with you the tournament organizer in the first place, there is no way you would not say shit about it. The FIRST person to be consulted should be the tournament organizer. Even though his intentions were probably good, the fact that he didn’t contact you first is a total lack of respect and you know it.

AMurderofCrows: You act like I’m being stuck up and your taking this personal. I never said I was better you in any way. If thats how you perceived it then I apologize for that, but I don’t apologize for what I said. The fact that you say “WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU” and “You ain’t shit” is exactly what I’m talking about. Thats a total lack of respect. The FIRST people in the community you should contact are the organizers. Bottom line, don’t try to change shit your not helping to organize without talking to the organizers first. Joe already talked to Sammie before you even posted. There is no reason to discuss this further.

On a different subject im still looking for a teammate

You want to talk about being respectful to organizers???

Do you think telling people you’ll only go where the free pizza is when i’m opening up my pad for you guys is considered respectful of the organizers? Ballsy MF.

Once again, you are just a punk trying to play big man in the scene, as always. I see through your BS, and i know i’m not the only one. Maybe i’m just one of the few who just don’t give a fuck and will call the BS where i see it.

You obviously missed the point, again, even though i spelled it out for you. I’m not taking issue with where you want to hold your cute lil tournament. I take issue with some punk trying to act like he’s better than everyone else, making commands and demands, and not realizing his actual place. What i took offense to was how you said it. Once again, i’ll give YOU the benefit of the doubt this one last time and not call you retarded for being ignorant.

Put it all in proper perspective…you guys have been having monthly tourney’s at tilt. This is a small event, not a large one. the team tourney rules have just been finalized in the last week or so. You didn’t have 4 months of planning behind this.

Don’t make like this is the biggest, most hype shit to hit the scene in ages…it isn’t anything more than something a little bit different from the normal tourneys you have at Tilt, and that you will continue to have next month, regardless of what else goes on anywhere else.

In other words, you haven’t had the level of planning surrounding this that Bragging Rights had, so don’t try to compare this event to that one. And stop trying to twist this in to something it isn’t.

Sammie asked for help in trying to get the scene to do something over there. I did that by bringing attention to the request, and i did so out of respect for someone who’s done a shit ton more than you have for this scene. I have since called sammie and let him know that over all i don’t think it was going to happen.

Done and done.

Again you are taking this very personal when it’s not. And your mad over a joke I made about free pizza several months ago? lmao. Dude seriously this is pointless. You can keep replying if you want but it doesn’t I can see this is really hurting your feelings so I’ll stop.

P.S. Sammie had enough respect to contact Joe about this first. He didn’t get the answer he wanted so he told you to post on here and try to make it happen anyways without tellin you he already talked to Joe. Instead of being mad at me you should ask him why he wasn’t completely honest with you to begin with lol.

End of discussion

Man oh man…this is sammies work at the moment…this fighting is making us stronger as a community? I personally talked with sammy for half an hour last night on the phone…seeing if I possible wanted to relocate…the answer was no…Honestly if his event had any kind of meaning he would have mentioned it at the last tourney and it would have been better planned for this month. I personally did not really see a big success in sammy’s B-day bash…the glare was a huge killer into my fun that day and having to run matches around other people schedule has kinda of lame also. Even the turnout wasnt anything new ya know? Now im not saying I wouldnt work with sammy…but I do like to put a little bit of time into planning these events to make them fun and ran in a timely manner…Sammy wants to see more hype at his events…well waiting the last minute and trying to take out hype isnt cool in my eye’s…Angel and I plan out events atleast a month in advance and try to build on the hype…I personally drove fliers all over oregon to build hype on the last slugfest…I even hung around the Super cab. at tilt to spread the word to players trying to bring in new faces…has it worked?

Once again…The event is staying at Tilt and you guys are more then welcome to run your own event on the same day…I personally dont care…But if he really wants to get something together let us know and we can plan for something next time.

yes please, on both.
SSF4 < getting tore up.

Wow…hella derailment.

Anyways, I’m just going to put it this way.

We live in Oregon, the tournament will most likely be held outside at the end of September, it likes to rain outside.

With all respect to Sammie, IMO its difficult to want to do a tournament outside, especially in Oregon when the weather can flip on you at the drop of a pin.

Can we move onto more important things like Getting rid of this Chrcter lock Bull shit and making it just Blind Select. Character lock only benefits people that play Only 1 CHARACTER, and nothing else. nothing positive comes from character lock.

Seconded.

Unless its 3+ Players per team, there really is no need for character lock. I don’t think anyone, but SamB, is going to be pulling characters from some random spot and if it is a counterpick attempt, it’ll either A) Backfire or B) Win one game but backfire the next.

Full Blind Select is perfectly fine IMO

Can I get a round of votes one last time to make any final calls or maybe idea’s

Just do what slash said. No character lock but blind select when requested and if there is a split, winners keep their characters. There are several people pushing for no character lock but no one is really pushing the other way… I think the people have spoken.

And just to reiterate, I think the final match should go down like this: 2/3 sets, twice if necessary. Each “set” is one 2v2 match as previous described. Lead players on each team play one game, anchor players play one game, if there is a split the winners play a tie breaker. For the finals I think it makes sense for the winner of each set to keep their characters for the next one just like we do in singles tournaments.

Kevin or Hellsap, whichever of y’all is up for teaming I’m down. PMs or post up here or whatever.

Fatbear’s got it exactly right for how grand finals should run.