AEMAKOTO Guide and Q&A: Ask all your questions here!

I would argue there’s a lot of overlap between how and why you should play a game. Anyways…choosing a character is something that is very personal. If you want to play the easiest, then Blaughable is right on the money. I’m going to share how I ended up choosing Makoto and the characters I played before I switched to her. I’m gonna get especially long-winded here, so do forgive me! My hope is that by sharing my experience with you Prey, you will see that your situation is not uncommon (hell, just check out the rage thread) :smiley:

[details=Spoiler]When I first started playing often was when PC SSIV AE first came out, but I had been reading and watching videos long before that. I played a little bit on friends’ consoles before that, but it was usually not for very long stretches.

I’ve been playing fighting games casually all my life, since learning how to do fireballs and SRKs in sf2 on snes. I played Ryu like everyone else. Then I became attached to Akuma’s bad guy feel in alpha 2. I continued playing akuma in 3rd strike, although I only really ever played with my brother. That said…I was bad. Like really bad. Like use nothing but fierce attacks and specials kinda bad. So, when SFIV came out, I actually decided I’d take the game seriously. So I did research, despite not being able to play it regularly. I stuck with Akuma in vanilla cause I liked him, but I lost frequently with him. He was fairly difficult for me to play well. So for the first time, I considered character choice seriously. I decided on Guile, because he was simple.

Guile was weak in vanilla, but I won with him more often that I did with Akuma since his execution requirements were much, much lower. Fast-forward a bit to when SSFIV hit and Guile became a beast. I bought myself a TE fight stick so I could start p-linking, and my execution drastically improved over the course of a few months. But…I would win, and feel bad about winning! This was both online and offline. My brother stopped playing with me because he just didn’t like fighting Guile. So, I decided it was time for another character switch. I narrowed it down to Ken or Guy, simply because Ken was solid and I liked Guy’s style.

Then, I read V-Ryu’s interview here on the forums, so I thought I’d check out Yogaflame’s The Magic of Vryu Sensei. Makoto was a character I had never even considered…all I knew was that she was in 3rd strike and looked like a female version of Ryu. I didn’t know her specials, or how she played. And holy shit man, I liked what I saw. I started doing more research on Makoto and found some sets of Flash Metroid tearing up with her. So, I found it interesting that this supposedly low-tier character could do so well if played right. After all, every time I had played a makoto online in super with my guile, I didn’t even have to try to win. I could literally do nothing but hold down-back, throw booms, anti-air, and throw out a few back knuckles and I’d win.

So I switched to Mak. Oddly enough this was shortly before AE hit. I knew nothing about the change log, so I was happy to hear that she was getting buffed. So I started doing endless with her…and man was I terrible. I knew more about the game than I did in vanilla with Akuma, but I did much worse. I would lose 20+ matches in a row. But I didn’t care, Mak was fun to play. Fast-forward to when AE PC hit. This was the first time I was ever able to play consistently, so I started training hard. I’m think I just hit 6500 matches played, for almost all of them I used Makoto. I still lose to players who don’t play smart. When I play Ken I marvel at how much easier SRK is to use than fukiage. But I still love playing Makoto the most.[/details]

There’s also the, how should I be thinking while playing this game side of things. Cause let me tell you, saltiness really is very dependent on your mindset.

I find myself, too often, getting into the mindset of, “Okay, I have to win this match,” or “I shouldn’t lose to this guy.” It’s when I start thinking like that that I get the most frustrated, well outside of network of performance related lag. This mindset contrasts heavily to how I thought when I first started playing AE on PC.

I just didn’t have the opportunity to play often because I don’t own a 360 or a ps3, so when AE hit PC, I was just happy to be playing. Back then, I hadn’t invested that much time in actually playing, so my mindset was different…better I would argue. I would think, “Alright, LET’S GO” before a match, instead of “aww, not T. Hawk!” Or, instead of “why is this scrub getting rounds on me?” I’d think, “how can I do better?” In fact, my microphone was on for the first day of matches and I didn’t realize it…until I got a message about my “GET HYPE!” pre-match pep talk to myself :smiley:

Don’t be discouraged though Prey, we’ve all had our frustrating losses. The important thing is to not lose sight of the spirit of the game, which means different things to different people, but to me…it’s about choking people.

Ryu, Ken, M. Bison, Balrog, Dhalsim, and Zangief are the best at teaching fundamentals while staying strong at any level of play, arguably stronger at lower levels because of ease of use. Be warned, having good fundamentals won’t naturally make you good at using Makoto, in the same way that you can’t have good fundamentals and just pick up Hakan or El Fuerte. Fundamentals help a lot, sure, but Makoto’s footsies basically boil down to reads of which counter to use and AA knowledge.

If you want to learn how to play 4, have some sort of self-realization on when you are leveling up and play a character like makoto/abel your best bet would be geif. Especially your not scared of having limited movement options.

On a side note, wake up frames on her Backthrow were the only ones changed right? I’m practicing something else right now and dont like to deviate.

Everything else is the same… Man I need to practice my meaty cLK…

is there a perfect meaty cr lk setup

Sweep, dash, fMP whiff, meaty cLK

All I got so far lol. The others don’t work as well. I’ll do a little research

Backthrow dash f+mk crLk :slight_smile:

thanks guys imma try these out asap

The reason you see so much more losing related frustrations is because our minds focus on the bad, it’s just something people do. Our minds will focus on what isn’t going our way, what isn’t working, and what is going wrong as opposed to what is going right. We could have won more than half our matches but those matches we lose will automatically have a bigger impact on us than matches we win. It’s not just a fighting game thing either, even news makes use of our mind set targeting things that go wrong in the world more often than things that go right.

If you’re gonna play Makoto I suggest you find a way to stay calm. I find that if I concentrate on what I done wrong in matches beforehand that I do better cause I’m not just concentrating on everything that’s happening or getting angry over what isn’t working.

Hey guys what’s the best answer for blankas hop. I can react fast enough but all I know is lp/lk. There’s gotta be a better answer :s

Hey guys, just started playing with Makoto in training mode. I’m curious about her instant Tsurugi. It seems really useful but I’m not really too familiar with the motion so I mess it up a a lot. Any hint on how to improve my execution on this?

First page, Quick questions/Answers -> about IA Tsurugi.
All there is to it there.

Are there any good options for the f.HK feint?

Not sure what you’re asking there… but i’m slow today

up X down B L Y R A

Hey guys on certain crouching characters do you have to really tighten ffs cause I’m not getting it.

It doesn’t work against a crouching Honda, fierce feint cr.lk does and you can link s.mp up to 5 times (practice 5xs.mp xx mp hayate xx super > 3xs.mp xx mp hayate, it’s quite fun)

Lol ya I knew the Honda thing. It’s great and would be hype to land in a real match :confused: but ya the crouching characters thing is turning out to be a pain and thought it might just be my execution cause I can’t seem to land it on ryu. Lk tc doesn’t connect on him either :confused:

hmmm, doesnt work against crouching boxer neither (if I remember well).

Lol ya boxers another one same with Cody :confused: such a trouble some bunch lol. Could some one help me out? I know mp>mp>lk^mk>mp hayate works on ken so I’m tryin to get karakusa>hp>hc>mp>lk^mk>mp hayate. I’m positive I got it once or twice but at 230 I’m starting to slip lol.