Glad to hear that RM, I’m of the same opinion. That makes it a bit easier. Of the pro-level Maks out there, he’s got the most matches out in circulation.
So yeah, it’s gonna be Haitani (predominantly), Shiro and V-Ryu with a few community members thrown into the mix. I’m thinking I might post more than one vid for the really hard match-ups.
Yeah, I see the logic. I guess the people on this sub-forum are gluttons for punishment.
I play Fire Emblem games. Glutton for punishment is an understatement.
Confirmed: Makoto needs a leather bondage costume.
…yeah?
Truest statement ever spoken.
Does anyone have a link to a thread that describes the mechanics of the option select?
What option select you mean just general info? or particular option selects? Sorry need to be more specific…
Well the general info would be nice, but also those specific for Makoto if possible.
edit: look below
Can someone list all the meaty setups for cr.mk and st.hp please. I’m trying to relearn her from scratch since I’m doing poorly with her and my online is messed up.
Check the 1st page. They should be under “Setups after knockdowns”.
UPDATE on the Q&A front page:
I did quite a bit of updating in the match-up section, so I’m not going to list everything since the changes are very noticeable. Just so you have a rough idea, here’s the sections I added that weren’t there before.
-Chun-li
-Guile
-Vega (claw)
-Adon
-Balrog (boxer)
Plus I added some videos here and there. Gonna keep looking for more.
@Mossad and Robot Mak: I know you guys wanted to keep the match-up section in the Q&A strictly for her “strange/hard” stuff, but the person who started the Match-Up thread doesn’t come to the forum often enough to reorganize the thread and as such, the front page is clearly outdated. I just transferred those nuggets of tech to the Q&A page so they don’t get lost in the shuffle.
Still looking for match-vids to add. Reminder, if you see something good, please send it my way, Mossad’s or Robot Mak’s.
BTW, someone needs to buy Mossad a fruit basket or a hallmark card. A hefty amount of the info we have is due to his research or someone bouncing ideas off of his knowledge.
-Nuts
So this is EVERYTHING? How up to date is it???
Thanks for the update AEMAK, and for the thread link on option selects.
Quite a bit of that tech was developed in Super, but it’s still viable now. I’ll give it a once over though later tonight, just to see if it’s missing anything. But why so hard up on cr.MK or s.HP? Is there something situation specific you’re looking for? Besides, it’s not like you have to use the ones listed, you can always create your own. Just make sure the math adds up. Look in the “How to calculate meaties” section for info frame data on how fast the rest of cast rises.
EDIT: Never mind, I thought it was up to date, but there are a few missing. I’ll ask some of the others to look them over and add in what they want. Here’s the thing, Makoto has so many ways of turning her attacks into meaties, it borders on the ridiculous. The ones listed are her most important ones, but don’t worry, we’ll have them up to date soon.
The only thing that could be considered lacking is the EX Oroshi section. I’ll get started on that now.
The biggest thing this thread is missing is an OS section. Off the top of my head, we would have to check:
3+LP, 6+LP+HP (Yamase/s.LP OS)
23+LP, 6236+PPP (U1/s.LP OS)
Safe jump OS c.HP, and the appropriate OS for those it doesn’t work on
Safe jump OS U1
Safe jump OS U2 (IIRC, 25+ frame backdashes can be hit anywhere on the screen, probably quicker ones. Still an iffy endeavor due to distance determining time, it seems)
Alright, you cretins, there’s now officially a perfectly meaty setup for c.LK (and thus perfectly meaty c.LP into OS), c.MK, s.HK, and s.MP off of U1, backthrow, c.HP (if you were close enough), and EX Oroshi. If you want to meaty someone, pick your poison.
Someone test those OSs. 
I was thinking the same thing. I’ll probably add one in over the next couple of days. What’s the best way to test these in training mode? I just test them when I’m playing in ranked, and lose when I don’t get it right, but I know a lot of people aren’t like me and actually give a fuck about their win/loss record.
The best way is to set Makoto as player 2, then “record” with her to do the OS. Make sure the OS is frame perfect, recording until you get it right. Then go through every single character. Possibly test a character-specific thing or two of interest regarding the OS. Then, you record the next OS. Repeat.
Zangief, T. Hawk and Guile.
Gief and Guile have already been taken care of. Don’t have enough for T.Hawk yet (text wise), but I’m sure I can find a vid or two.