EX Throw reaches a hell of a lot farther than the regular one, so it is still pretty useful in strings. (not meaty) cr.MP xx non-EX grab pretty much makes the faster speed of EX Throw irrelevant. Pretty much because you can still use it as a reversal once in a blue moon if they’re looking to bait your upkicks. Doing a frame perfect cr.MP delayed cancel command grab is difficult and takes practice but you actually have another frame to cancel the cr.MP which, while not as tight, is still a pretty small window.
ok thanks ill hit the training room
Been practicing my gj mixups and set ups in general. If i post em on youtube do any of you guys wanna check them out ?
Hi Guys, I havn’t been here in a while.
Has anyone seen the “kindof” new set play that Kazunoko used on Daigo in Topanga A-league?
I don’t remember the start of the GJ combo, but ends with the following.
(GJ starts in corner) somethingsomething~~~ lp.lunge > lp.shoulder (opponent juggles out of corner) > cr.hk> (GJ now finished) >
whiff st.hp fwd jump mk dive.
The dive kick crosses over, and I’m sure lk dive will hit the front.
Need to do some testing.
Also watched Canada Cup, Kazunoko did a setup on Blanka (maybe blanka only, because of blanka wakeup is slower).
fwd.throw > fwd.jump > fwd.jump > lk dive crossover (should make EX UpBall whiff aswell)
Once again, will do some testing
Check the “Yun Safe jump thread” its not stickied.
Anyway after a forward throw, a F.Jump, F.Jump followed by either a LK Dive Kick or MK DiveKick (depending on the character) and it will make their reversals whiff.
It does not work on everyone, I know sagat for instance, both dive kicks will still get hit by Tiger Uppercut,
anyway check out the tread youl see it already there!
hitenryu posted it in the yun vids thread. kazu is showing that setup in training mode
Post Ultra 1 set ups:
Midscreen U1, Hp Lunge
479 Damage (482 Lvl 3 Focus)
Corner U1, Lp Shoulder, Hp Lunge
546 Damage (529 with Lvl 3 Focus)
Corner U1, EX Upkicks (1 Hit), cl.Mk JC Dive Kick (Reset)
485 Damage (482 with Lvl 3 Focus)
Corner U1, EX Upkicks (1 Hit), cr.Hk (Untechable knockdown)
453 Damage (461 with Lvl 3 Focus)
Corner U1, Lp Shoulder xx Genei Jin (Reset/Untechable Knockdown)
Over 700 Damage (Don’t. Use. Focus. Ever.)
Remember because of the juggle system, these options are not open to you if you combo into U1 from EX Upkicks. Corner your opponent and bait something dumb. Most reliable is Lp Shoulder, Hp Lunge because it does the most damage for no meter. Genei Jin post Ultra is devastating but should only be used to close out the round. All combos were tested on Ryu but I’ve yet to experience any character specific problems online.
Can’t you EX shoulder off of a juggled ultra 1?
Yes, but both midscreen and corner you risk getting only one hit for an extra 32 damage, even if you get both hits you do as much damage as Hp Lunge would have and have no other juggle options afterwards. If you time it badly (late) as well, the opponent pops out in the opposite direction.
Edit: My bad, I misunderstood, Yes after a juggled Ultra you can get the last hit of EX shoulder, but definitely not worth the meter for such little damage.
Edit 2: After further testing, you can get the 90 damage hit or 40 damage hit from EX Shoulder (Not both), If you perform an EX Upkicks into U1 and get the 90 damage hit it’ll be scaled to 63 (70%). Still not worth the meter in my opinion.
Never said it was worth it, just pointed out it is an extra option.
Only scenario would be if you used it to get rid of the magic pixel.
Ok, I only posted what I felt was useful to know but you’re very correct, even if it isn’t much damage it’s still quite important to know every possible option that can close out a round. I would, for the majority of the time save the meter and take my chances though.
If you think you can finish someone off, you can do ex lunge into ex shoulder after ulltra.
Did more corner Ultra 1 tests today in an attempt to optimize damage and set ups:
Corner U1, step forward sweep (Large characters only? Can use target combo 3)
Corner U1, st. Hk, Lp Lunge (Big meterless damage)
You can just do ultra 1 in the combo and juggle with lp shoulder into hp lunge or if you have meter you can cancel the lp shoulder into geneijin to finish off.
Yeah, Lp Shoulder in Hp Lunge is going to do the best damage. I was just surprised I could connect with some other attacks after Ultra, thought it was interesting.
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Some ideas in that video are good, some are kind of stupid (cr.LP FADC taking a huge lead over anything else.) Most of these resets can be done better or without meter though.
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To begin with, all of Yun’s resets are unsafe against reversals. That’s just how resets are. Virtually none of these mix ups are safe against reversals either, although he can be safe if they are blocked and then reversaled.
cst.MK xx JC, j.HK - Very underused and very good, however, j.HP is better to use. Harder to time, but more damage and you don’t have to dash under (you can walk to either side against most characters.)
Any resets involving TC FADC are basically worthless imo. Yun gets far more guaranteed use with two bars to waste it FADCing them outside of attempting to remain safe.
There is virtually no reason to go for any resets when you land an FA2-3, since you can get plenty of guaranteed damage and a fairly safe mix up to begin with. Though cross up shoulder after cr.LP is probably not something to overlook if you’re down on life or near a stun.
You can do resets with Shoulder during Genei Jin and combo afterwards, dunno why it says you can’t. At least I have done so before in the corner.
Even as an example, there is virtually no reason to hit confirm into TC and FADC for a reset in the corner. Nor is there any reason to use EX Upkicks twice.
The above video I found on Youtube, but if you have better, safer resets please list them or point me towards them. I may even film them since the video above is not that great as you say. 
Finally updated the OP after all this time. I’m still working on it but if anyone can help with anything (new combos/character specific stuff/etc), that’d be awesome.
I definitely gotta do Genei Jin combos next 