AE Matchup Discussion: Evil Ryu, Fei Long, Gen, Gouken, Guile

Far standing mk is a good option versus chicken wing. I think it works better than cr mp if you react late.

Far standing HK is the best option i think, but it’s not easy to don’t do this too early.

safeballs are mad good against fei because you can bait rekka punishes you can ultra or punish with jab xx ball.

Here’s my game plan against fei…

First I will find out how much fei knows about the Blanka match up…

to test this… i’ll see his reaction vs LP and MP ball… on MP ball i’ll need to see how well can he punish it… is he punishing it with only one mid air rekka hit… or is he punishing it with the full 3 hit rekka… obviously if he’s punishing with the full rekka… i’ll probably try to stay away from doing any ball other than LP ball… but if he’s only punishing it with one rekka hit… to me the risk is still worth doing at times… having MP ball will make things easier and harder for him just to simply walk up and push you to the corner…

your goal against fei long is to stay away from getting cornered… yet try to make fei scared of using chicken wing/rekka because those are really the only moves that will eventually get you to the corner… you want him to really get a bit closer to your normal poking range also where his rekka on block isn’t as scary because he’s taking a risk everytime you block it.

if you block his rekka… first or second hit… you need to make a decision of either… A. punishing him on block or B. Wait for the remaining hits… if you always choose B… you’ll get yourself cornered VERY fast… the fact you’re not taking any risk will put yourself in more danger compared to trying to make some guesses… your punish will be jab xx ball… of course.

if fei is doing chicken wings against your blanka… he doesn’t know the match up… like mentioned before… if you see him do that… you will REALLY want to bait him and neutral jump HK to punish the crap out of him… there’s really no reason why fei should be risking chicken wing on blanka… Blanka got wayyyy too many moves that he can do… and the only thing fei can gain from this is closing in the distance which is good for him but he’s taking a HUGE risk by doing it… so…a good fei would really just stick with his normals and rekkas to close in distance…

if you get knocked down… be smart… if he’s going for what looks like a safe jump… you go for exact opposite and try to ex rainbow out or attempt the ‘unblockable’ (and if he OS after safe jump… i haven’t seen this from Fei yet… but wouldn’t be surprise if it’s out there… well basically learn to adapt and not use stuff that doesn’t work). If he’s just standing there and you feel like he’s trying to OS you… you should really just man up and decide if you wanna block or backdash (with or without focus)…

if you knock fei down… i treat him as if i’m playing against a shoto kinda… one thing i do wanna check is… because fei’s DP is reverse DP motion does he have the benefit of the shortcut? Because if he doesn’t… it’s really not that easy for Fei to DP your ambigous crossup… I do know that T.Hawk (being a character i’m learning) he can not do condor spire (horizontal hawk) with the DP shortcut motion because it’s reverse DP motion.

-LAU

Fei can do safejump, low short, os st.fierce vs. ex rainbow.

Actually reacting to rainbow isn’t even that hard. When I play Fei vs. Blanka, I hit blanka out of rainbow on reaction

/Ah thanks for the update, can you even backdash away from that os? or does that just make close standing fierce to become far standing fierce to hit you?

-LAU

Tell me how to safeball Fei ? He can punish LP Ball on block no ?

can’t backdash in corner, but thats just an example.

Fei can pretty much do whatever he wants vs. you.

@TheMeth, you just have to practice it. He can’t punish if you do it perfectly unless he has super.

No way gen vs Blanka is 3-7 in Blanka’s favor, that is insane. Saying Gen ‘can’t deal with’ Blanka up close is too shortsighted. Our improved normals and more damage (and meter building, meaning we can get super a lot earlier now) make it a 5.5 match-up imo. if gen plays defensive Blanka has a really hard time to get in assuming the gen knows all the AA for the different jump in situations. If Blanka gets close sure it *can *get nasty, but blocking +crouch tech+ normal OS make sure you won’t get thrown as much after his hopping shenanigans. Also I recently found new Oga (walldive) cross-up tech that works on 90% of the cast (both quickstand setup + not quickstand) and can be done of Gens bnb combos so you better watch out when you get knocked down by lk gekiro kick hehe.

Also to Dantevalmont, Blanka’s hp roll is punisable on block with mantis s.hk, mantis c.hk and mantis c.hp if you walk forward a tiny bit before doing them.

OK so the safeball is a good tool vs Fei like the ambuguous cross up HP… we need to find anything decent against him, i mean this match up is so retarted you know… worse match up in AE, worse…

I’d rather pay Fei than Cammy.

Corner is corner that’s why blanka is usually dead in corners… It’s not just fei it’s like pretty much every character he’s against so shouldn’t even bother mentioning. If it’s in corner blanka can’t do anything but to block and pray and that’s it…

I dunno about fei bing worst match up… I do hate fighting Cammy worse as well… It’s like there’s nothing you really can do to her… Your normals are better but at the same time you kinds don’t wanna be in that distance… Focus baiting only gets you so far … Other than that I’m clueless

-LAU

Yes Cammy too is a pain in the ass, but she didn’t received a big nerf in AE ? Her instant CS, no ? Even with that, the match up still very hard.

It makes her offense less scary bu does mean her close range game is weak… It’s just not as abusive now

-LAU

you have more chances to get away from cammy.

Also the corner is important vs. Fei because he pushes you to the corner faster than any other character in the game.

Yes, for one mistake, you eat one combo ended by a rekka, you’re on the corner.

That’s why i think this match up is the worse in AE, for one mistake, the round is over.

I dunno, landing rekka at the beginning shouldn’t put you in the corner immediately but it does put you kinda close…

as for fei pushing you into the corner faster than anyone else… he does need to take risks to do that… rekka isn’t exactly free… everytime he does rekka, he’s putting himself in risk outside of combos…

  1. his rekka startup it’s fast but if he whiffs… it’s like dictator he’ll get hit hard
  2. if you block rekka… it becomes a guessing game for both of you… if you don’t guess and just stay blocking all the time you’ll get pushed… if you try to interupt all the time… you get pushed… just gotta guess and hope you made the right choice.

when i play against fei… not saying it’s easy… i do put myself in an uncomfortable position a lot… in order to protect my space… protecting space imo >>>> keeping charge imo… but often times i feel like blanka players don’t think about it this. Protecting space can simply mean just walking forward a bit to block (or play footsie or whatever else)… its better than having fei approach you and you block.

-LAU

Yes, so this is play strong footsies, that’s what Blanka should do in this game.

About the rekka, i think… all situations (block, punish or not etc…) are generally in advantage of Fei Long because why ?

Rekka can be spaced very safely against Blanka and Fei can shift his second or third rekka very nastily… he has a lot of frame to cancel into other rekka, and i think, if the Fei player read what you do in a first time, it’s not hard for him to counter you but for you, it’s very hard do to the good choice.

I think in this match up, there are too much disadvantageous situations for Blanka, and Fei can make more mistakes than him.

don’t mistaken what i say…

the guessing part is definitely in fei’s advantage… you guess right… he gets jab xx ball… it doesn’t exactly help you positionally…

if he guess right he gets knock down… its definitely in his advantage… and in many situation like you say it’s always disadvantage for Blanka…

but sadly… you don’t have a choice because not doing it puts you in a worse position.

as for Fei making more mistakes yes… for sure… like mentioned before… i’m not disagreeing about Blanka being at disadvantage but… i just don’t think it’s ‘hopeless’ yet…

-LAU

I wouldn’t say hopeless, it’s just really hard.

I rarely play Feis who are on my level though.