Doesn’t s.lk push back more?
It may. I figured jabs wold be easier, but the more I messed w/ both, I found them to be about identical in ease. I figured it might be good to mix up anyway just to keep things changing visually for the opponent, but as a go-to, wondered if there was any counter-incentive vs the low-ness of the shorts. Gamerbee, too, seems to opt for both at different times.
The only thing that kept me from playing a lot of Adon was the inability to do these combos reliably. Then last night I realized if I hold down-torward during insted of down back, I’m now unable to NOT do them 
Rest in peace!
I like cr.lk over cr.lp anyways but I haven’t tried s.lk.
Crap, that was a typo. I meant cLK. Tho sLK works as well
yeah that option-select.com tutorial lists his bnb as cLK cLK. And yet GamerBee sometimes goes w/ jabs or cLK cLP. Timing seems about the same, pushback seems roughly the same if not exactly the same… is it pretty much a matter of changing up your sequences so as to not be predictable? Wish I could ask Mr. Bee lol
I always ask this. I find it curious that he uses jabs more than shorts. Or at least from what I can remember seeing.
I have started doing a lazy combo of a close standing light punch(dont know short hand cl.lp?)
cl.lp>cr.lk xx lk/mk.RJ. I cant remember 100% which RJ I do, but I assume its usually the lk version 
The reason I believe its lazy is because doing this doesnt require good execution 
Jab is 3 frames, kick is 4 frames. Kick gives more adv on hit. That’s why both combo are equal in difficulty. After a crossup MK, you do c.lk then c.lp, it’s the most lenient combo. After a crossup LK, I don’t take chances and go with c.lp c.lp, because crossup lk does not have good hitstun. In the open it all depends if I want the faster move or the better hitbox and more damage (depending…). I rarely do two lights into lk RJ in the open, though, I’m not confident about the distance it will whiff. c.lk x 3, c.mp xx LK RJ does respectable damage on standing opponents anyway, and you can mixup on block/crouching hit.
Hey guys, how you all doing?
Been a while since i posted on here but i’ll just get into it. I’m having REAL difficulties in the match up against ken :(. I’ve never been great in this match up and I’m lucky to play against such a solid high level ken. I’ve tried a lot of things but with he puts the odd light DP in there to really put doubt in the back of my mind I crack. Basically I’m gettin destroyed by step kicks, low kicks, kara throws, light dp’s and a constant offence… lol he really never misses an opportunity to combo and what not.
I’m pretty dumb at this game hahahaha I wont lie but i’ve been playing it for a while now. Coming away from Gen to now trying to fully roll with adon and just lookin for some advice if anyones got any.
2 questions:
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Midscreen, does Adon have any good setups after a forward throw?
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When do you guys find are good times to go for focus? (offensive or defensive)
Is TK method the only way of doing the IAJK. If not, how else can it be done?
Read the last few pages of the iAJK thread.
Short:
9214+K restults in a faster move. 2149[delay]K is slower because the way inputs work. TK is fine if you are buffering off something though, and is more reliable. The first method is hard and will take you forever to learn. Everything is explained in the topic.
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Dash once, and safejump immediately on characters that can be safejumped.
Or dash once jump and bait a DP with an air jaguar kick, making the DP whiff. Depending of the DP you will be unable to punish, though. -
His focus is used like any other. It’s an okay focus but whiffs against slides and very low moves.
Thanks. Funny though, that method seems easier for me to do… except I can’t do it on the right side lol
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Which non-crossup non-neutral jump jump in do you find best for a safejump? HP or HK (or MK??)? HP and HK both seem reasonable, but if one safejumps better than the other I wanna know
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Different chars have some very different uses and situations for their focuses to shine. But I was just asking if there are any specific situations where they tend to work especially nicely, such as “after the tip of a jag kick is blocked, you can often catch a punish attempt w/ focus” or something like that. I completely made that example up, though, so I’m def not saying that’s good. Just an illustration of the kind fo thing I was looking for.
Thanks!!
Some question’s if anyone would like to help/answer.
-Can close.Stmk be used as frame trap? i noticed that i can do wonders with it…it has slow start up, though faster recovery than any other close or close crouch physicals (except shorts/pokes).
for example: Hit >> TK XX FACD, IAJK(whiff the hit, the sole purpose is to cross the other side quickly). if opponent tried to get u quick and u timed your Cl.st.mk then he will be forced to block.
so its like Faster recovery + faster Hit start (like makoto cr.lk into Ultra trap).
is this any useful in general? like for example after sweep against non DP’ers? any other example like these that Adon can have?
-IAJK…there are some weird properties to it :S some char breaks it with some weird stuff, like pokes…and some other chars cant or dont. wuts the deal with it exactly? so wuts stops it and wuts not because am kinda confused with i see a player cross counter my IAJK with a simple Anti air which will either hit trade or break my IAJK sometimes.
-2) His focus is used like any other. It’s an okay focus but whiffs against slides and very low moves
one of the things that is buggin me with adon is his focus!! which abel/ and specially Ibuki (due to her long range back dash) i remember that i even sometimes backdash after hittin adon from a Focus…the range is just horrible >< and will that has some weird properties :S
for instant chun li can crouch that shit if she’s a little bit away from Adon…like seriously cannot punish Any footsies with Adon’s focus.
am i right or kinda wrong?
-In general. wut are the main AA for Adon as well as Footsies?
just to make sure(from frame data and play).
AA: St.mp, St.mk, Crouch FP …most effective Standing MP, correct?
others, IAJK EX or spaced out fk.Jk
Footsies: cr.mp, cr.mk, and 3 frame poke…most useful cr.mp due to it’s fast active frames and great hit box, correct?
-Fake cross up with adon done by jump in fk, correct? any more elaboration on this please?
thnx
Dunno, to be honest I don’t focus much cept in specific matchups.
I don’t understand your st.mk question. If you’re gonna frametrap, you do it with close FP because of the reward (link c.lp, yadda yadda)
About iAJK…uh, it beats some stuff, looses to other stuff. That’s what record mode is for. Record yourself and try to beat it with various things.
AA: late HK RJ, no other AA is as reliable and it autocorrects very well. Other than that I only use st.MK but I’m sure there’s other specific situations where c.HP would be useful. In general, though, HK RJ.
Footsies are character dependant. far HK shines in some matches, stand MK shines in others. c.LP, c.LK, stand MP, c.MP is good. Sweep is pretty good too.
Contrary to popular belief, Adon doesn’t have a FUCKAWESOME button on the ground and will lose to a number of characters if only trying to counterpoke.
I think you shouldn’t push buttons when you do a fake crossup because of the tripguard, could be wrong.
Out of curiosity, are there any really good Adons to watch aside from GamerBee? And are any of the posters here generally considered to be the “local pro,” so to speak, like Shizza in the Chun forums or Flash i the Viper threads? I adore GamerBee’s play, but would love to see some other high level styles at work
I know Ramen Addict is a very good Adon player from what I’ve seen on XBL
Hey man. Finally someone who replied lol
will first of all i was goin to make a vid Describing all the stuff i wanted to tell. I think u might find the vid interesting or that u might find anything useful in it as well as others.
Secondly, thnx for the small help.I though Adon can be deeper char but apparently he’s really simple when it comes to those traps, combos, how to master him…etc.
thirdly, about the traps and stuff(the St.mk example). You can follow St.mk with Standing pokes or cr.Pokes or Cr.mp on those two situations:
1-Counter hit
2-Early Frame starter trap
i guess you know the frame starter trap thing, like for example Makoto’s cr.lk into Ultra 1. By means doin a move while opponent down on the ground a little early, so when they wake up they will get hit by the very last active frame of the move (if they got hit by it) allowing you to chain other quick frame starter moves (like pokes…due to the extra frame advantage u got from the previous attack).
so that’s it, i was tryin to put this frame trap thing into useful situation (i think it’s considered frame trap by the way, i remember i read somewhere…not sure, i might be wrong >< lol).
about the AA thing: ya your right. though i find st.mp is very decent anti air…i really do rely on it a lot
About the Fake cross up: Yah ofcourse your right. though jump in FK can be used as a safe jump in Option select thing.
so anyways , here are some stuff i discovered . soon enough i will make this vid and hopefully u guys (Adon fans )will or might enjoy it. some examples of what in the vid:
1- How to makes your JK cross up opponent in some useful situations
2- Using IAJK to confuse opponent Severely (as if it’s for example, Ibuki’s Dash. also a good way to built meter right?)
3- Some miscs and traps using IAJK
4- Some miscs of Counter hit attacks and non counter hit attacks into combo’s (like the example i mention, early excuted st.mk into st.lp,cr.mpXX Jk)
5- Some resets using IAJK, and the so known st.fk in corner against some specifics
6- a weird Option select?
I bit most of them are known through the forums though i never seen any vid anywhere that shares the stuff i want to represent. i believe me makin a vid of all those are way better than typing it so u and others will be able to observe it and understand it more easily. though i can post the transcript of the vid , that if anyone is interested >_> lol
thnx anyways
j.mk j.mk EX-IAJ
idk about the rest of you, but I think it looks pretty facking cool.
Highfive.