Umm, no? I’m not bashing sticks. I use a stick and wouldn’t use anything else. But in this day and age you are at a competitive disadvantage using one, period.
This isn’t true at all. In fact, it’s laughable. The movement and effort needed to move an control pad’s stick or d-pad is infinitesimally smaller than what it takes to make the same input on a joystick. That’s literally inherent in the design. We’re talking barely moving your thumb versus making a motion with your entire wrist and hand.
More nonsense. In fact it’s the pad that allows for exact precision, whereas the joystick is basically a blunt instrument.
Irrelevant.
It’s too bad those are the only two pads in existence. Oh wait…
Unfortunately they have to be compared because they are tourney legal - that is my whole point.
Hit boxes can be used by anyone and learned in less than a day, after which you now have near-perfect execution. No musicians necessary.
The original poster said he’s never used/owned an arcade fight stick, so he doesn’t have the nostalgia or muscle memory of it built up, so in that case it’s perfectly reasonable to steer him to one of the better options if he wants to be a competitive fighting game player (this is SRK, no?). The bottom line is that in terms of taking execution out of the equation, the ranking is Hitbox > pad > joystick. This cannot be debated.
the mlg sides have a mute shade of red and blue underneath. sandpaper would be better to remove it over liquid solvents since they could damage the plastic in addition to removing the paint. you may save alot of time and effort just buying some sides on the madcatz site or the trading outlet
Thanks for your help, very much appreciated. I think it’s going to have to be chalked up as a dead board. Trying to boot the stick in configuration mode doesn’t work at all. I do remember it popping up as a Dual Strike device earlier in the year while using it on PC, now it only seems to show up as a TE 360, which I guess means it’s bypassing the dual strike and going right to the 360 PCB which makes sense why it’ll light up on the PS3 and only show up as an unrecognized USB.
I guess it’s time to build my dream stick I’ve been meaning to get around to.
DPad and joystick on an arcade stick are similar and I don’t see too much advantage or disadvantage on either when it comes to that but moving your thumb over a piece of plastic where rubber contacts touch a PCB can hardly be seen as more accurate than a shaft hitting individual microswitches with a larger range of motion with a bigger set of muscles. Laughable? :-/ really bro…
What? You gotta be fucking trolling dude… There’s no way you are dumb enough to describe an arcade joystick as a “blunt instrument” on SRK TT.
What? That was your whole point?
What? <-- Again… Learned in a day and then near-perfect executions? Have you even used a hitbox?
Re-read your posts (and Darksakul’s) from a 3rd party perspective.
Your sarcastic tones, “my opinion is truth”, and “this cannot be debated” attitude alongside your obvious lack of knowledge means either you’re really stupid and unwilling to learn or see things from another perspective,. or you’re just trolling. Different opinions are fine, and adult conversations about tech here on SRK TT is fine, but if you keep this up with your holier than thou attitude, I don’t see you being here much longer.
I was here long before you, and I will be here long after you. You quoted my post extensively for the purpose of replying with empty ad hominems and literally zero arguments to back up your position. It’s apparent you didn’t actually comprehend anything I wrote, and decided to start attacking some anti-joystick strawman instead.
This has nothing to do with validity of arguments. Congratulations for being on around for longer. Knowledge on the subject and validity of arguments have no correlation with time. I know people who have been programming for 20+ years but know very little because their job doesn’t require too much expertise. I also know people who started about 5-7 years ago who have attained a level of expertise in a certain area that most people may not reach.
While I know very little of fightsticks compared to the lot of you, I don’t see any data to support your claims. I watched parts of Evo this year and I’ve watched about an hour of the Capcom Cup today and I’m seeing tons of sticks. So I would imagine there is some merit to using them. If there was such a huge advantage to using hitboxes or pads, why aren’t more and more people using them? I would imagine a decent portion of the major tourney goers would switch to the tool that gives them the huge edge that you claim just to win.
Mind you, I can see theoretically why HitBoxes might be better than the other methods – you’re bypassing everything and going straight to the switches allowing for improved accuracy.
There a quite a few pro players who will tend to disagree with you on this.
Smaller does not mean faster. There is a little thing called leverage, as in your whole arm acts like a lever, small movements in your shoulder and elbow can move faster and further than your thumb.
That is what we call bashing sticks, seriously if you going to continue down this line of argument you need to take your troll self elsewhere.
So you enjoy paying out $35 to 65 every three months for a new fight pad. I can tell you now those Mad Catz and Hori Fightpads tend to break or wear out quickly.
Oh wait, those two game pads, the ones made by Microsoft and Sony themselves are the only ones which don’t break in a few months with normal use. Also I never said they are the only pads in existence.
Look up all the threads where people ask how to fix their broken Fight Pads.
Did you ever read the Hitbox thread? Even the Makers of the Official hitbox state it takes some practice. And when I asked them about execution, they told me their musical background helps. So who are you to argue something about the Hitbox from it’s inventors.
The Mad Catz TE2 for PS4 isn’t coming out in the UK anytime soon, as informed by a reliable source. And on top of that @MarkMan told me on twitter that the XRD stick wouldn’t be coming to Europe at all.
So as I’m impatient, and because I’d rather have the XRD stick over the USF4 one (really dislike the blue side panels) I’m thinking of trying to pre-order the XRD stick and somehow get it shipped over to the UK. But want to try and find out roughly how much the shipping charges would be on that (can’t do it from MadCatz site).
Does anyone know roughly how much it’d cost? Or if not the dimensions and weight of the stick in its box? Then I might be able to find out on a few courier/postage sites…
Then all I’ve got to do is find out if I know anyone who lives in the States…