Absolute Question and Answer Thread v.3 (ASK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!)

Thumper3112 · February 20, 2015, 1:26pm

Got given a guilty gear xrd sign TE madcatz fightstick but the person lost the cable is there anyway to get a new one as madcatz support told me to GTFO or does anyone have the schematics for the cable so I can make my own (engineering student)

ShYtFaCe · February 20, 2015, 5:48pm

Moved post.

zhd93 · February 20, 2015, 8:28pm

I am trying to figure out dimensions of the case that i am designing. I do not want an excessively huge case. Actually i am trying to keep it’s dimensions minimum without compromising ergonomics and keeping the layout as it is. Can you help me to determine the dimensions? Also, is there any other things i should consider on this subject?

On the image below i named the dimensions i am trying to determine:
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h373/mzhd93/a1/dim.png

Obviously Y(-) has a funcion, you rest your palms (and wrists?) on it. Is there any function of Y(+) like that? If not, i will try to keep it at minimum.

Edit: IDK if it matters but, consider that I will use it on my lap too.

buyproduct · February 20, 2015, 9:00pm

Do a 8 in X 12 in x 3 in or a 9 in x 14 in X 3 in case (Make a cardboard box mock up to decide if these dimensions appeal to you). After you make the case and have it in front of you can decide where you want the holes to be by moving your printed template around on the top of the case.

OrochiDemon · February 22, 2015, 5:09pm

I want to try a crown stick next time I order parts. Since it uses microswitches, which ones arent compatible with it?

Oh yeah, which stick bodies does it fit in well? I bet it cant fir into the Q1 body. But can it fit in the normal XTekken, Hoti Soul Calibur V or the Tekken 5 sticks bodies?

Darksakul · February 22, 2015, 5:30pm

Which Crown joystick in which stick case?

The Crown 303-FK is the only Korean stick that compatible with Japanese joystick mounts. The 303-FK would mount anywhere a Sanwa JLF with the flat mount plate would mount.
Something like the Crown 303-N or the Myoungshin Fanta would need a heavy modification to the stick case and perhaps the joystick.

OrochiDemon · February 22, 2015, 7:38pm

oh yeah sorry, the FK since it is supposed to fit well with sanwa mounts. But will it be too long or wide to fit in any of the sticks I mentioned? I saw a guy had a problem putting the fk in the TE1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K76mnQu3aKY

Darksakul · February 22, 2015, 8:04pm

Tekken 5 stick?

Open Tekken 5 stick

It’s mount was designed for a Sanwa JLF without the mount plate, so it’s mounting not compatible with the Crown 303-FK without modifying that top panel.
Tekken 5 stick is a POS stick anyways, way below the mark for premium Hori sticks. P.S. The Tekken 5 stick is not a premium stick, despite the main body.

Hori Soul Calibur V
its doable but you run into similar issues as the Mad Catz TE 1.

XTekken
What do you mean XTekken?

Do you mean this? Yeah treat this the same as the TE.

skaloola · February 22, 2015, 9:54pm

I’ve got two voltechs, neither came with “spacers” to mount the lever at the correct height…so going to the hardware store today.

anyone help me out with what to ask for, just a bunch of washers or something? what size?

also wondering what people use to cut their artwork with, i used an exacto knife but wondering if there’s something better I could use for making circular cuts for the button holes. They turned out pretty bad, especially the pieces of art to put in the buttons

Darksakul · February 22, 2015, 10:07pm

For spacers for joystick mounts here really no one way to approach this
Just get a few washers, rubber or nylon washers work real well but metal washers or even nuts for those bolts as spacers would work too.

As for art work button hole cuts, I use a exacto knife, there are a circular cut tool (I forgot what they are called) in craft and hobby stores that looks like a compass that works terrifically.

OrochiDemon · February 22, 2015, 10:10pm

What Im thinking of doing with the Tekken 5 stick is using an epoxy with the Kowal universal plate adapter to the 4 flaps for the original stick to go into and then screwing in the sticks to that. I already took out all the parts in it, so the body is bare and I dremeled off the teeth in the button holes.

Yeah I meant that XTekken stick body.

Raij1n · February 23, 2015, 2:18am

With usf4 being ps4 bound for evo I was wondering if the ds2 or 3 can work on ps4? Similarly to the xtokki from ds2 to 3. A friend of mine can’t seem to use any other controller, let alone a stick or I’d just padhack him a hfc4 and be done with it.

Would a pcb swap work? I don’t usually mess with pads besides to take em apart and put em in sticks.

Ideas? SOL?

noober2 · February 23, 2015, 2:49am

Best way to fix scratches on a plastic case

Darksakul · February 23, 2015, 3:18am

Depends on how heavy the scratches are

buyproduct · February 23, 2015, 3:29am

I posted this in Undamned thread but it may be useful to you.

Undamned's USB Decoders (USB to JAMMA, etc.)!

Finally got a video demoing some controllers with this for use with the ps4.

<iframe width=“560” height=“315” src=“https://www.youtube.com/embed/dHNZp1Z98Hk” frameborder=“0” allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here is the description I intended to write down.

Why a convertor and not a dual mod?

It comes down to preference and price. I like to play multiple fighting games, but use different controller types for each one. For example, for capcom fighters I prefer a stick, for NRS fighters I prefer a hitbox and when gaming in the early hours of the morning, my wife and son prefer I use a pad. Quad modding all these controllers to work with current and next gen systems would cost too much money. A convertor just makes more sense in this instance.

What does this convertor do and how is it assembled?

This convertor is composed of 2 components:

Undamnded USB Decoder: This takes inputs from your 360 or PS3 USB controller and turns that into wire signals that you can use to control anything. Info thread on SRK (Undamned's USB Decoders (USB to JAMMA, etc.)! ) and where to purchase (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/undamned-usb-decoder/1491-undamned-usb-decoder.html).

Common Ground Donor PS4 or Xbox One PCB: This is the pcb that will communicate with your next gen system. For PS4 pad I recommend the Hori Fight commander 4 (http://www.play-asia.com/fighting-commander-4-paOS-13-49-en-70-7sn9.html) and for Xbox One I recommend the Hori xbox one horipad pad (http://www.amazon.com/HORI-HORIPAD-...ywords=hori horipad xbox one wired controller ). Information on how to hack these pads can be found on SRK (PS4: Third party PS4 padhack options for Xbox one: http://forums.shoryuken.com/discuss...f-third-party-xbox-one-padhack-options#latest ). Thank you @Gummowned.

We can take the directional and action output signals we get from the undamned usb decoder and connect them to the corresponding signals in our doner pcb pad to make a convertor that takes as its input 360 or ps3 signals and outputs an xbox one or ps4 signal. This is a convertor.

What about input lag?

Your lag, if any can come from 3 sources in the chain:

360/ps3 input controller -> Undamnded USB Decoder -> Donor PCB

There are about 16 ms in one frame. Typical input controllers can range from 1ms up to and beyond 14ms. The Undamnded USB decoder has been tested to show that it only introduces 1ms of latency into the chain. Since the undamned usb decoder and donor pcb will be constant in your chain and can be expected to be about 3 to 6 ms in latency, the biggest contributer to lag will be your input device. You would want to use something that keeps you within that frame window. You can use the data on this page (http://www.teyah.net/sticklag/results.html ) to help you figure this out. To be honest, we are talking about ms differences here and in most cases below 1 frame. Many of you will not notice the difference.

Why this convertor over other commercially available convertors?

There are severl advantages to this convertor over commercially available ones.

Since you are using officially licensed controllers as your donor pcb, you do not have to worry about your convertor being patched out in a firmwared update.

No lockout by the ps4. All commercially available convertors on the market have to deal with being booted off by the ps4 after 8 minutes. This is due to the convertor not being able to authenticate itself via bluetooth to the ps4. Since you are using an officially licensed controller pcb to directly communicate with the ps4, you will not have this problem.

Tournament legality. Undamnded USB decoder has been used at EVO and TFC. It was used to run SF ST on superguns. Simply put, it has no macros, you are coupling it with a licensend wired controller. It is tournament legal

Currently Supported Input Controllers:

The controllers on this list are controllers that I have either personnally tested or I have seen to work with Undamned USB decoder. If a controller is not on the list, it does not mean it is not supported, it only means that I did not have it on hand to test. Also the undamned usb decoder can have its firmware updated. Future updates might allow for use of controllers that are currently unsupported. You cannot use this as an xbox one to ps4 or vice versa convertor because the undamned usb decoder does not recognized ps4 or xbox one controllers as input devices.

Xbox 360:

Official wired xbox 360 controller

Madcatz TE round 1 arcade stick

Madcatz SF x Tekken fightpad

Hori RAP Kai

PS360+ in 360 mode

Etokki convertor (this will allow you to use ps2 pads. Input latency for this is sub 2 ms)

PS3:

Dual shock3 and Six axis

Toodle’s MC chtulu

PS360+ in PS3 mode (For Hitbox users I recommend this mode. Access it by holding down jab (1 P) while pluggin in your hitbox)

noober2 · February 23, 2015, 4:22am

They’re pretty light on my hori scv

Darksakul · February 23, 2015, 4:25am

You might be able to buff them out with some plastic polish

skaloola · February 23, 2015, 4:55am

Next thing I’m trying to figure out is how to cut my own plexi. I got some small scraps to test on and making straight cuts is pretty straight forward by scoring and then snapping it.

what about making button holes? I searched and it looks like people have used dremels with success. What attachment would I use?

I just ordered a dremel 4000 but have no idea what attachments I need

Thanks for the help

Tensho · February 23, 2015, 6:20am

http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick.html
Has all the info you need including what tools to use.

Ramb05 · February 23, 2015, 7:55am

I have issues with a stuck button on a 360 afterglow controller. I tried opening it up as it just requires a Phillips precision screwdriver but apparently stripped the last screw.

The pad is fine in every other aspect but the A button is stuck. Tried cotton swabbing with rubbing alcohol, but to no avail. Anything else I can do for a fix or am I gonna have resort to drastic measures?