Abel Match Videos

I suck at this game a lot, tell me what I’m doing wrong?

By the way the end the EX COD should have been ultra, but my xbox controller sucks balls… then I just got nervous and whiffed

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[]Random ultras are bad.
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]Use cr.fp xx Falling Sky as your punisher instead of a CoD combo.
[]Cross your opponent up on wakeup more. A well-timed crossup has to be blocked (unless he teleports) and gives you a more solid tick attempt. Also, you can mix it up with an ambiguous crossup.
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]Step kick
[]Block more on your wakeup. Don’t always try for the reversal
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]Don’t roll straight up to your opponent, it’s a free throw for them.
[]At 1:14 you could have done FADC xx cr.fp -> ultra
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]Don’t rely on it, but learn to on reaction ultra through a fireball
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He was also pretty predictable with the standing far roundhouse. You could have baited it out, rolled behind him with mk roll, and then done elbow -> ultra especially since you had been good to not rolling at all before that… he wouldn’t have expected it.

Noticed another thing you could work on. After an anti-air c.fp you missed a few juggles because they were knocked far away and I’m guessing you use mp CoD? You should switch to using fp CoD. It should still juggle into ex falling sky even if they end up landing close up.

I’m pretty sure fp CoD will still juggle into ultra if they are knocked close by the anti-air c.fp too. If that’s not the case, it’s not that hard of timing to skip the CoD and just do ultra from an anti-air c.fp. It’s more damage that way anyways.

Oh, and in the dictator match. If you’re up against a dictator that loves to do his falling punch a lot, that’s perfect for focus attacking.

I’m not sure how to bait it, I think that’s my problem… Usually I’ll just get cought in a trap and not know how to get out. I knew it was coming but to be honest I don’t know what to do.

The EX COD at the end was not a random ultra it SHOULD have been ultra I was prepping, I just got nervous and thought I saw a fireball at the end haha

And thanks for the fp COD

I usually don’t do COD after a missed SRK but I play retarded haha

On a cross up couldn’t they wakeup SRK?

Thanks for the info

Akuma’s SRK blows on wakeup. It will get stuffed if you space & time it properly or trade if you don’t. Its not all that scary compared to Ryu’s. That Akuma was like clockwork with throwing out the far roundhouse once you were spaced a certain distance from him, pretty much any time you were within 1/3rd of the screen.

I’m starting to love Abel…here’s a couple of my vids… anyone wanna spar…just hit me up…

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While Abel has to be patient and wait for an opening, if you play entirely reactively you will lose. You need to actively apply pressure with Abel so you don’t fall into traps.

Don’t sit there and wait for the fireball. Smart players won’t throw it, and they’ll bait it out with a random jab or a FADC backwards. They’ll even encourage you to whiff by throwing fireballs as you’re jumping, rolling, etcetera.

Not if you time it so that you cross them up just barely after they wake up. They’ll shoryu in the wrong direction on reversal. If you do the ambiguous crossup so you hit them in the front, yeah, they can shoryu, but hopefully you’ve conditioned them to not shoryu your jump-in.

Only watched the first two:

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[]Step kick after a blockstring
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]Don’t jump in at a shoto, dur.
[]Roundhouse wheel kick is crazy unsafe. If you wanna throw out a wheel kick, do lk. You want to use whatever strength barely hits the opponent. And don’t do this often. If I’m playing a shoto, I will on-reaction shoryu a wheel kick spam.
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]You can’t do CoD on a Ken, Ryu, or Akuma. They beat it for free with shoryu on block.
[]cr.mk xx ex wheel kick is stupid. It’s not even a combo. Do mp CoD.
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]Every time you jumped in, he would reversal shoryu your followup. Recognize the pattern and just block after the jump-in.
[]Don’t do EX TT for a tick throw. It’s wasteful and FP TT does more damage.
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]This Akuma is pretty bad. He’s not even shoryu’ing your jump-ins. I mean, seriously.
[]Stop doing so many EX Wheel Kicks. You whiff at least half of them. They’re good, but only as a surprise. Save your meter for EX TT, CoD, and FADC.
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]Don’t do cr.fp xx roll -> EX Falling Sky. It’s completely wasteful. Either do the roll and do FP version, or just do cr.fp xx Falling Sky if that’s too hard for you right now.
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The quickstand bit I for sure need to work on. Hard to break bad habits.

I use c. lk’s for ticks because every one in awhile i’ll catch someone blocking standing, and I can usually get the st. fp link off it. Other than that, it’s just habit. c. lk’s don’t push em as far back as well, I believe.

Yeah, cr. fp to falling sky is a better punisher, but i’ve had issues in the past with mistiming it and either resetting them or eating another shoryu. I need to work on it, but i’d rather do something that I know I cant screw up, at least for now.

The ticks after crossups were mostly from nerves; I get worried about getting a CoD blocked and I do stupid things to avoid it.

It’s the little things that seem to be killing me lately, just gotta go to more of these and get used to em.

Thanks for the Tips Kikuichimonji… good stuff…

ya i dont even bother doing a roll after my knockups.
i just pop up into light punch choke slam.if i was actually good i would use fierce… but im not.

this akuma was BRUTALLY bad. im not even talking about it like i am skilled… cuz we all know im sucky. but this guy wouldnt even be in g2 or above B rank in G3 to be honest.
shotos have been out for 20 years… you GOTTA be playing them , even by accident better than that.

I actually like the idea of EX falling sky after pop up. i dont think its a waste for us mediocre players to use. I usually have to much extra EX power laying around anyway.

What does this even mean? Not to be a dick, but we have notation for a reason. I’m assuming you mean crouching fierce punch xx light punch Falling Sky. Why would doing fierce Falling Sky be any harder?

You need to stop dissing yourself and try to get better. Abel’s combos are not that hard with some practice. The more you convince yourself you can’t do them, the worse off you make yourself. Saying “I’m bad at the game” is not an excuse for bad habits. And there’s literally no reason to use EX Falling Sky after the launcher. It does the same damage as fierce punch Falling Sky and less stun.

I’m not trying to be a dick, but SRK has always been about playing games to win (and have fun doing so). I’m all for ‘beginner’ combos, but ones that have no benefit or negative benefit are bad habits, plain and simple. And it’s bad to suggest to other players that they should pick up the same habits.

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Truer words…

too late… you sound like a dick…

to answer yoru question…
EX falling sky does MORE damage than light punch falling sky
those of us without uncanny xmen l33t type reaction can still launch and pull off ex falling sky because it comes out faster.

if i pop up and then try to execute fierce chokeslam… you wiff on it. like you see in MANY videos

light punch comes out fast enough that you can pop up without having to cancel, and THEN execute. so EX version is all the butter because you get the damage and easier execution.

i know the game moves in slow motion for you, but it dosent move in slow motion for all of us… some of us are just average.
so since i usually speak to the AVERAGE and slightly below average player… i would suggest to them to use EX falling sky after launcher.

EX totnado throw deals low damage
EX rekka is my favorite move and best use of ex
EX terry kick usually is not the correct distance but is not bad for combo after launcher.
EX choke slam is fast and provides nice placement and damage.

those are all my opinion.:looney:

Learn to do things right. You CANCEL the 2nd hit into hp.falling sky. Not after the 2nd hit. Its really easy with some practice.

You choose to stay at that low level and encourage others to do so too. Instead of encouraging them to improve and learn better options, which isnt hard at all. I aint no advanced abel player whatsoever, but reading what you wrote, I felt insulted, ive only been here for a few months and i know this place is not for people who just wanna play casually and stay being mediocre.

lol im even starting to think that you’re just trolling :rofl:

There’s a reason in all the videos in here that the Abels do fp Falling Sky. That’s because you have enough time to hit-confirm. Just do the DP motion and then hit punch if it hit. A better option is to cancel into lk roll and then do fp Falling Sky because it’s better on block and you get more meter, but the execution is slightly harder.

Are you kidding? I don’t have any better reaction time than anyone. In fact, I have horrible reaction time. I just practiced enough and trained my muscle memory so that it’s easy to do. It didn’t take that much. This combo is very easy as far as combos go.

Do whatever you want, but your opinion is bad. It’s based off of laziness and self-criticism. If you want to get better, someday you’re gonna have to break these bad habits, and the longer you wait the harder it’ll be.

Well…he’s not being a dick, even if that’s what it seems like to you. He’s trying to help you up your game and, more importantly, he’s pointing out the flaws in your play style as to prevent others from taking on the same path.

What would be the point of these forums if not to get better? Just to watch some other dude playing the same character you do?

It’s true, not everyone is at the same skill level. Not everyone has the same reaction time. Not everyone has the same level of execution. People learn at different rates, some faster than others but that doesn’t mean that you’ve plateaued just because you can’t do this crap now. If you keep playing, and you want to get better, you will get better and these forums can be an excellent tool for upping your own game.

If all you want is another game to play before the next “Triple A Title” because you got tired of Guitar Hero or Gears of War, then why waste time posting here? If you just wanted to watch some videos of sf4, then you would, you wouldn’t be discussing shit about strategy or execution or any of that bullshit. So make up your damn mind.

You said vs shotos you shouldnt COD or wheel kick? so what exactly are you supposed to do?