Abel General Discussion

some bigger combos
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the 1 frame link off f+mk now is c.mp
everything else is 2 or 3 frames at least. So easy!

f+mk does 80 damage vs grounded opponents, but only 60 vs. airborne ones, so it is the same as c.mp and c.mk except you can move forward after it. s.fp to juggle someone high above you, s.mp if they are lower.

c.lk s.mp link is possible now

you can combo off of a chained c.fp in the corner as well, see vid.

otherwise, seems like you could get some good stuff by tagging on c.fp early. as ryu for example you can do LP shoryuken, land, c.fp xx fierce shoryuken. still doesn’t do much damage for 1 bar though.

im having trouble linking falling sky from cr.lp>cr.hp
this is in one of trials after an ex roll. i can land the ex fallig sky but the non ex version never comes out. wtf am i doing wrong?

Out of sheer curiosity… who are you comparing him to here?

http://m.youtube.com/?rdm=4phc78dgv&reload=3#/watch?v=skVNT-RO6Oc

abel trials by vesperarcade

doesn’t look like he has his 50/50s off his Tornado Throws and Falling Sky…

The opponent can roll away… and Abel’s roll travel a shorter distance it looks like…

I know it’d early but it seems like Abel pretty much sucks Lol I mained Abel for the past 2 yrs and last nite I did work with heihachi and was FREE with Abel…maybe I just need to get used to the change but I found myself whiffing a ton of tts, the range on step kick seems a little shorter and i god how miss canceling cod into cfp Lol. I’m not giving up after one day but i just needed to vent a lil.

Abel is gdlk in this game. I might stick with Ryu/Abel team. Really nice tag combos. I like how Abel is turning out, he’s more like 3s Alex than his SF4 incarnation. You need a solid ground game to play him now instead of relying on his vortex.

my worst nightmare

My thoughts exactly, except what if Alex could do bullshit combos also! :smiley: Abel/Marduk myself. His ability to get in helps a lot (plus the damage is ridiculous)

Maybe i made a premature judgement…also just realized slk combos! That’s awesome

abel seems like he’ll be opening people up like crazy. footsie monster

what abel/ryu tag combos are you doing? in the corner c.fp, tag to Ryu, lp shoryu, c.fp xx fierce shoryu is alright
to Abel I’ve just been doing f+mk s.fp falling sky off of tatsu

you can just throw FBs and tag cancel Abel in too, and get a free mixup. *a shity one. joz just mashed out of it into autopilot tag combo bullshit

i ain’t going to be playing this game

I think you just have to stick with him. You can’t play him like the early Abel versions.

—yeah I was just frustrated from day 1 I guess…I’m sticking with him. What have u guys been doing against pressure/wake up situations? I’m having trouble combining into ex shoulder any tips on the timing?

Just been screwing around in training mode (this is my d1 basically) and I can link his crouching fierce into cross art into teammate’s ultra, and it does something like 45%ish damage without gems.

The teammate I’m using right now is steve.

I’m kinda sad he can’t roll to either side after a fs anymore, but now the opponent does it for you! Also love the ex shoulder tackle (keep that regular shoulder at home). You can play him mostly the same, if they guard f.mk, mindgames, if not, chain to launcher. st. lk still does it’s job too, but now it chains to f.mk. :smiley:
My one gripe: wtf did they do to his dash? His dash was amazing, now he just trips forward a few inches.

I feel like fmk is getting stuffed or whiffed whenever I use it in footsies. Also cmk sucks as an aa, smp work like a charm tho

Yeah I’ve been playing Abel like his SF4 version and it works out ok. Need time to figure max damage combos and such.

f+mk range is definitely smaller, hitbox isn’t as buff, but same can be said for a lot of SF4 cast footsie normals. on block its weird, I’m having all kinds of problems trip guarding people who just hold up after that to escape the TT

nothing chains to f+mk… it is chaining to close mk, which just looks the same.

Step kick is actually -1 on block and there are 4 prejump frames before going airborne in this game, so Abel doesnt actually even have anything fast enough to stop someone from holding up ( /tear). I think step kick is ultimately gonna be pretty worthless in this game tbh.

What I’m wondering is how is Abel supposed to get damage in this game? Most I can get solo is about 350 with 1 bar

Nice same team here too. Team MMA. Fuck plasma chuckers.