A Litany of Hate: Ports are F@|( 1^& Awesome

No, there is problems with the Classic mode of ST on HDR.

3SoE is funny because aside from the complaints about lenght of the bars and the difference in speed, I can’t find a damn vid of anything that makes it unplayable at tournaments. Most of the glitches mentioned happened when you take the game online. I am not saying that all the bugs are acceptable; all of the random glitches make it look sloppy as hell. For the needs of our community though, the game is more than playable at tournaments.

Taking speed differences into consideration, this means that the Third Strike community has to deal with the same situation they had with the PS2. Capcom fucked up the marketing and IGS got thrown into a situation where they were in way over the head with the whole process; but instead of the offline being a mess, it was the online that got a kick in teeth. It is on unfortunate but you know, all these ports come with some sort of compromise that has to be made. It is a raw deal but it is the reality of it.

Complaining about trials, new artwork, new character select screen and other aesthtic purposes is rediculous. Unless it affects gameplay, our community needs to realize that the producers are going to throw in shit to attract the general gamer market. Given that I’ve already read one complaint about MvC:O not having trials, let’s not bitch about inconsequential things.

The way this hobby works is that the parent company of the games gives it and we take it. We can continue with roms run imperfectly through emulators but that doesn’t help us expand properly. All that is left at the end of that road is a fun legal battle with the owners of all the IPs. So we can play, work with the companies to patch the game in case of a shitty port, and by playing expose the game to other people who can acquire it in a convenient way or you know, just let the scenes stay stagnant. I’m not trying to give any of the communities some holier than thou ultimatium; it just so happens this is the situation for all games which do not have a next gen port.

Is this a really shitty place to be? Yeah. But it isn’t like its a brand new situation.

The meters were of different size. Sure aesthetics don’t matter that much(Look at VF). but when you have multiple art styles going on it makes it look rushed and not cohesive like a Chinese knock off.

“Unless it affects gameplay.” Its on the third paragraph.

I haven’t looked into why they changed the super and health bars at all. It still doesn’t change the fact that if they do other uggo shit to the game that isn’t impacting the way it plays, we just have to deal with them. I don’t like any of the additional changes; I would also much rather have the original music. I just accept the fact that whatever we get will have plenty of concessions made to attract newer players; regardless of whether they make sense to us.

Meters of different size does affect gameplay in 3s and 2i EX moves take a chunk of meter and going by arcade visuals it would appear you would need more meter to use those moves.

Ps3/XBL MvC2 is a…passable port. barely. Mag/Sent players have to change timing on alot of things.

Just for looks.

Don’t think the other 2 games have different HUDs so looks like they figured out to not touch it.

3soe is using random fanart for Q’s HUD portrait lol

Damn are you being obtuse now. I am in no way shape or form defending the new meter bars. Changing the meter bars obviously affected gameplay. Adding new portraits, music, trials, dicks waving in the intro or anything other thing they deemed necessary to make it a better product for the market place that exists outside of versus mode needs to be accepted as the hit our community takes to attract people.

The best our communities can do since you know, this whole thing is addressed to our fighting game communities, is accept that: ports are not going to be perfect, try and help the producers make the best possible game and deal with whatever extra shit they do that does not affect the gameplay.

Besides, the meter argument stating my stance is new artwork can detract even more easily than attract especially when the two art styles don’t even mesh together in anyway shape or form.

Look I love Third Strike, my wife loves Third Strike and I understand that you guys love Third Strike. You gotta let it go dude. I know that the HUD and clash or art styles can make the game look stupid as fuck. I honest to god know that it can make the game look half assed and sloppy aesthetically and that in the very superficial way games get treated this can hamper the acceptance of certain consumers.

But you gotta let that go. Feel free to throw a long ass rant about how shitty it makes you feel in here or just take a deep breath and just let it go.

It sucks, it really sucks, but it comes with the territory.

light attacks dont even have the same amount of hitstun…niggas be falling out of the ROM when you didn’t even mess it up! >:(

IIRC Jed doesn’t like 3S, he’s being completely objective here.

First, I don’t like Third Strike(fuck the priorty engine) but it is something that doesn’t need be to changed they never really give a good reason why.

Actually, about a year or so before 3SOE came out, some folks over at Unity suggested an updated HUD, so I guess they were inspired by that.

Little bit OT, but whats the priority engine?

Chun Li > All

Nah nah trollin, i would like to know what priority engine is too

The priority engine is if two attack and/or throw boxes are interacting on the same frames one will have priority instead of trading. Trying to use a jab to beat Chun-li’s back hp if you look at the hit box it should be beatable but that only tells half the story as the priority engine says fuck that and back hp wins with out trading.

Edit if you curious about the order
Lights<Mediums<Heavies<Specials<Supers<Throws

Oh really little man? Really?

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Pwned.

You totally pwned by showing me to commentators giving hearsay information on a player known for not really going all that hard at 3S saying that EX moves drop. We do get a lovely cr.mk xx EX spinning bird kick; but I guess that would be evidence for the moves still being in the game. One more time, there has been no collected footage of EX moves dropping offline like it has been parroted. Even the glitch thread has a quote from Derek Neal wondering wtf you guys were talking about. So all there is people complaining about the issue and other people mentioning that it has never happened to them.

Full. Throttle. Stupid.

Do yourself a favor and ignore Louis.