Hubris? On my part? After an hour or so reading this forum or playing online I am consistently reaffirmed that I have perhaps the smallest ego in the 3S universe.
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By that logic, anyone who doesnât pick Yun is making a bad decision. Weâre not talking about being different just to be different, weâre talking about what works for one person may not work for another.
Learning what works and what doesnât work against a certain player is part of the game. If you know I eat sweeps for breakfast, are you going to intentionally not use them? If a supposedly âtopâ player canât get past âlag tactics,â maybe they arenât as good as they think they are. If they canât adapt to that, and adaptation is one of the big parts of fighting games as we all know, maybe theyâve got some work to do.
I agree with your assessment of high level play. But what weâre talking about is not high level play. Weâre talking about playing online, a setting that most people on this board have no qualms about saying shouldnât be taken seriously. So why is it different now? I take every match seriously unless the player shows that they really arenât that good. But if I meet up with someone I KNOW is a great player online, you can be damn sure Iâm not going to pick SA3 unless I really think I can win with it. But this mentality that if someone decides to pick something other than the Top Player Tested, Forum Goer Approved SA for CASUAL matches, that that player canât be taken seriously is ridiculous.
And really, weâre ALL trying to âget the W.â The whole point of improving is to win more than you lose and to learn more about the game itself while doing so.
youâre acting like thereâs no sensible line and that anyone who does draw a line is somehow anti-discovery/innovation.
there is a generally accepted line and it only affects a very small amount of options. if you want to cross that line, good for you, just donât be surprised if you get grief for it.
I donât generally use bad supers but only because bad supers arenât interesting/fun. I guess it can be annoying when someone switches to a bad super during a long set though. For example, if youâre trying to get better at the Yun match-up and youâre losing but feeling like youâre getting the hang of it, then they switch to SA2. But itâs important to know how to deal with bad supers. If youâve never played against an Alex using stun gun and donât know how easy it is to get out of stun gun ticks, Iâm sure most people would rather learn during a casual than during a tournament. I do play as bad characters including Sean, and yes people sometimes do get pissy at locals but I donât really care. I like playing as Sean sometimes. Also, 12 is definitely a legit character.
I totally donât agree DoctaMario. If Iâm facing an opponent who eats sweeps, so I repeatedly sweep him until I win, what do I get out of that? I donât learn anything about the game and Iâm probably not having any fun. Plus if someoneâs that bad Iâm probably going to win anyway. Doing things that only work against bad players doesnât make me a better player in the long run.
Speaking of stun gun, how do you get out of a blocked shoulder tackle xx stun gun if you use Ryu or any other char ?
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Thatâs not at all what Iâm saying. What Iâm saying is, I donât understand why someone using anything other than the super/character/strat thatâs common is a big deal. This game is old as shit and barely anyone plays it, so the possibility of finding something new is slim, but if anything, a good player who uses a super/character/strat other than the ones Iâm used to seeing makes my playing time more interesting.
Well you arenât always going to be playing the people you WANT to be playing. And when the skill gap is that great, neither one of you will really get anything out of it. Itâs up to you how you handle that.
Regardless of what you think, Stungun canât be for anything BUT trolling. Got hit by that block shoulder setup yesterday, realized I didnât know how to counter, went to training, realizing there was no convenient way to simulate the scenario by myself and had to use 2 controllers at once, and then realized Dudleyâs mk beats it clean. I knew it was going to be stupidly easy to beat, but I couldnât figure it out in real timeâŚ
I canât tell you how often I fight SA3 Alexâs that never even use it. It, and Remyâs SA3 just seem so irresponsibly bad compared to other options. Like, trying to find new stuff is cool, but what could possibly be good about supers that give you no meter, and youâre only going to land on somebody worse than you 90% of the time?
Have I mentioned I hated fighting Alex online.
Remyâs SA3 is really situational. If youâre playing against someone who knows what theyâre doing, you really have to sneak it in where they least expect it. If 3s is all about mind games, getting someone to let you hit them with SA3 is the ULTIMATE mind game. :lol:
To be honest, Iâm kind of surprised a character like Remy wound up with his SA3. To me, it would make more sense for Dudley or Yang to have something like that than Remy.
Dash works. Donât know about characters with slow dashes though
I donât mean as a personality trait. I couldnât possibly know if youâre arrogant. Iâm saying more like maybe you get a lucky knockdown and instead of ârespectingâ the fact that he has parried you several times or something like that you continue to use the same tactics, kind of hubris. Then again, he does the same thingâŚso maybe heâs just being cooky. If it makes you feel any better, he taunts me to fucking hell but for some reason, knowing who he is and who he associates with makes it a lot easier for me to believe heâs just mucking around. He plays with Flare, Tebbo and Jwangggg. All three cool dudes.
Still, as far as talking about egos, I like to think I have a small ego myself BUT some of the posters here are so much on another level they scale the degree to mean something much more than small ego. Itâs like YOU THINK YOU CONFIDENT, I SHOW YOU CONFIDENT AND NOW YOU JUST PETTY AND SMALL TO ME, kind of thing. So best to keep your affirmations to yourself 'round these parts. That was a warning, not a threat.
Still, dontâ forget that I own you.
biggest problem with Remy SA3 is itâs just a guess and itâs a guess you commit really hard to. youâll eat a max damage punish and lose all your meter if youâre wrong. like why guess SA3 when you can just guess parry then SA2? way less risky and you donât blow your resources if you guess wrong.
but if youâre drunk/playing with friends/playing online ranked just do whatever you want. I play Slam Dance sometimes because itâs awesome.
HAHAHAHAH you eat sweeps for breakfast.
But really, if youâre at a high level and you are winning by using nothing but sweeps, you really gotta consider playing a different kind of opponent or looking for other parts of your game to polish. If Iâm winning against a scrub that keeps using the fierce and roundhouse buttons, Iâm going to find ways to get in, crouch the fierce, bob out of the roundhouse or just plain maneuver myself around that placed guess. Sure itâs fucking boring after a while and youâre going to end up losing a lot because you are being so condescending but itâs not like you were trying to win on those terms anyway. Like if I were to play against someone that always did wake up DP and never cared to notice that I was parrying or blocking it every time, I would just pick a different character and do stupid shit. This is actually how I learned how to properly utilize uoh, believe it or not. The ffa guys and ai guys would loooooooooooooooooooooove using low forward and that shit got annoying quick.
I would just sweep them 15 times
itâs my responsibility to sweep them until they block low. then we can really play.
there is no escape
itâs your punishment for playing denjin online
Itâs just that, in almost any situation that you can land Remyâs SA3, you couldâve landed his SA2. His SA3 only does a little more damage, and has 0 combo potential for obvious reasons. The only potential advantage it has is an extra 14 damage and a shorter bar, but as I understand it EX moves are super important for Remy so likeâŚitâs just such a crazy bad choice, thereâs no point in even humoring it. Playing Dudley against someone who is legitimately good made me realize that counters are pretty crappy, but at least when I use cross counter Iâm not putting ALL my eggs in one basket. Several, but not all.
Also, never use cross counter against dive kicks. It seems like it should work, but it usually doesnât. 
One day, that polar bear is going to skin you.
But isnât it better you had this experience in an online match rather than during a tournament?
Which probably wouldnât happen, but the point remains valid.
Actually, I am. If someone is boring me then I can just stop playing them.
i think it fits remy because it goes with his taunt imo.
cpu remy will try and taunt basically anytime he does anything and youâre not right next to him.
so i think the counter super is fitting for someone who acts so arrogant. heâs just waiting for you to try something.
in reality though itâs lol
I wish his taunt didnât take so damn long, Iâd use it more. The stun bonus can be really good if youâre all over your opponent. Iâll have to try that though, I never thought about it like that.
IglooBob is back? Is Lance3rd locked in a closet somewhere? xD
Youâre 100% right. If I were playing in a tourney I donât think Iâd even consider using SA3, but Iâve always liked counter supers for some reason, like his and Jinâs in BlazBlue. Theyâre fun.
And I use Slam Dance too sometimes. xD