DOOM FOREVER
or magneto it’s probably magneto isn’t it
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We played shit characters in Marvel 2 for their assists too but they were broken and completely worth it. Drones are ridiculous enough to justify playing Sentinel, with Viper/Dante/Strider you’re stuck playing Strider too. It’s like playing Commando/Cyke in MvC2 or something, it’s awful.
Dante gets hit out of Jam Session way too easy, especially at the start when people go ham with shit like Divekick + Cart or Box Dash + Beam Assist, which are also Viper’s worst matchups.
Iron Fist and X-23 could use Doom’s Beam though, which makes Doom even better.
You can use other assists for Focus setups though. There’s no reason to call Jam Session if you’re keeping them away with Seismos/Lasers, that’s when you call Strider.
Nobody is scared of arrows at this point. The guy has no mixups, shit movement and deals less chip than Morrigan (or probably even theory Vergil).
On the whole dante does no damage from the pages before. Has anyone seen alukards recent dante combos? I mean yeah he uses 2 assists, but the damage is there.
dante is the new taskmaster.
i rather fight anchor dante over anchor doom any day
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I mean if you’re bad with Viper/Dante/Strider you can call it being “stuck” but that’s about it. It’s not a good team for average players. You have to manage your XF more correctly than with other teams and your neutral in general.
Dante is mainly about covering the aerial any way. The projectile that emits from the air can’t be fucked by much. Viper does a good enough job covering the ground which covers Dante etc. If you’re that worried about the other quick assists…EX seismo or thunder knuckle.
Jam Session is a much better assist for her rushdown than Strider any ways so once you start closing in you’re going to be calling that more.
That’s fine considering jam session is a much more oppressive assist for top characters any way. You may not get to actually see Dante very often on the best teams with jam. He has a lot more movement options than Task and Task doesn’t have anything that says fuck you like Devil Trigger either.
If people did not throw prop shredder in the first 5 moves of the combo, he’d do above average damage from almost every confirm
You say “stuck playing Strider” like its a bad thing.
“fuck yo I gotta have a retarded assist and the 2nd or 3rd most capable run-it-back XF anchor, woe is me :sad:”
Point Dante teams are actually Vergil teams where Dante is the battery.
Magneto without a doubt in my mind although you could have Doom or Sent in there. Reason being Disruptor being the second best assist for Dante and arguably the best offensive assist for Dormammu. There’s synergy no matter who’s on point. You could swap Magneto on point and get Magneto/Jam Session which is pretty good and Magneto can get TODs off almost any hit thanks to Dormammu.
So much this. SOOOO MUCH THIS
stuck playing strider lol…its such a travesty.
i was thinking of vergil, but zvd is just too much stronger and dorm and vergil both use the meter, maybe morrigan would be really good
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Piskoooooo is bringing way too much Vanilla/Early Ultimate meme shit into this thread ATM. It’s like he got stuck in a chamber.
shield skills
*in theory
Also when people can go full retard with Zero, Spencer, Vergil, and Wolvie and like 30 seconds of you playing is more effort than they put into an entire tourney it’s just dumb and not even worth it.
People do use Acid Rain to anti air silly stuff into a full combo. Jam Session into Devil Trigger is a little bit silly but Million Dollars into Devil Trigger is a great incoming mixup. Crystal has slow startup and it completely stuffs box dashes but I’m not sure how/if he can combo off of it.
The reason you don’t see zoning Dante is that most of his projectiles, with the exception of Thunder Bolt, have too much startup to really flood the screen. He has to pick his spots or be backed up by assists in order to get projectiles out. Watch Yipes play. He throws out plenty of projectiles but only after setting up the opportunity to do so with great movement.
I think one of Danke’s points, and it’s valid, is that Dante doesn’t really have a projectile that’s fast enough to call in order to protect an assist call. Like, he doesn’t have Disrupter to protect Drones. If you can get Dante locked down a bit from fullscreen such that he doesn’t have time to teleport + assist, he can have a tough time getting started because the best thing he can do without DT is Jam Session. The moment you get within Stinger range he starts getting options back, such as stinger bc reverb shock xx fireworks. Once he can get a blockstring out he should be good to go because he can cancel into Weasel Shot, call assist, teleport and cross up j.M. The thing about Dante though is that all he has to do is DT and his problems go away. Thunder Bolt and Drive can easily shift momentum and let him get in to start his offense. This is where he’s different from Doom, who is just totally fucked against good zoning unless he’s point Doom with 2 assists.
Thats not theory lmfao. We’ve seen hundreds of Strider comebacks on stream alone. Work on your dexterity if you have a problem playing Viper for long periods, or just play nothing but her a while. You’ll get used to the strain it puts on your mind. I play melee for years so this game doesn’t drain me at all.
In theory? Nigga have you ever watched JRosa, Winnrich or Padtrick ever?