It really isn’t. 750k - 850k is good damage. Hell magneto nets around the same and no one says his damage output sucks
Tac infinites and Dhc into certain charcaters can guarantee a kill off of anything.
Just let this silly misconception die, please.
Dante low damage is the new Firebrand does low damage is the new Zero does no damage. People are just lazy. Firebrand probably is the only one that actually comes close to low damage and you can just add characters to the team to fix that issue. XF/TAC’s = instant more damage any way if you’re lazy.
Yeah the mix ups you were doing in the corner with weasel shot were pretty nutty. There’s no way to learn to block that stuff. You just get lucky or you get hit.
I guess due to Nova’s lack of projectile game Doom was somehow actually hitting you on point. Those assistless f+H footdives would have been easy to clear for a lot of the other cast on point any way. Not like Doom is going to teleport behind you to make that STrider assist really scary anytime soon.
Oh and your Striders are like night and day. You had formation B strings and mix ups and he was just flailing around with wall clings. You were able to take down all 3 of his characters sometimes easily with Dark Strider whereas his Strider was just so crap in the neutral he struggled to kill off one of yours.
I knew laziness was an issue with this game, but damn. This lazy?
I can’t wrap my head around how we can be this far into play and people are still in the mind set of Day 1 Ultimate Dante.
Not to mention getting high damage is so braindead easy.
Tac or dhc into zero, spencer, vergil, or strange = dead char
It’s too bad Dante can barely do a decent combo before TACing since HSD owns his soul. But I guess that doesn’t really matter since there’s midscreen TAC infinites that can be done anywhere for certain cast members.
Question: are TAC infinites enough to dismiss a character’s low damage output since it’s not guaranteed?
*note : I don’t think Dante’s damage is low
You didn’t have to put that last note in. You’ve been posting here too long to even try to think that any way.
TAC infinites are basically 66 percent chance or better mix ups into you die if they don’t drop the combo. They’re really glorified resets that pretty much guarantee death if the reset is a success. So yeah…they’re strong.
Anybody who plays Strider or Firebrand on point should always have a TAC infinite character second. Especially one that can flight TAC glitch to force them to guess twice or have j.S/throw mix ups off the TAC setup. Those characters get really stupid with meter so it’s worth it for them any way.
The only thing that really holds back TAC infinites is that if they do get countered against some of the really high tiers…it might come to bite you in the ass. Luckily most of the higher tiers have low enough health where you usually won’t have to TAC on them unless you have them in a wonky conversion where you have no choice in order to finish the combo.
Yes and no. As you said its not 100% so thats the no, and the yes is obvious.
But even then most point chars (that matter) are running 900k hp and lower(950 for morri and wolvie). Even chars with shitty damage can get 750k before dhc. High damage isn’t really an issue.
If you are really trying to supplement someones damage, a dhc the guarantees death would be safer.
Yeah there’s no reason to kill a cheap character off at the start of the round with ABCS into TAC infinite so you can kill them with the infinite and get huge meters. The guess is in your favor but if they guess out you’re that guy on the stream “that fucked up and got TAC broken during a sure kill setup”.
It’s just if you have to because of the character you play on point, damage scaling (assist/throw) or wonky converison…it’s there and it’s strong.
It’s a shame that one of Dante’s best beam assists is attached to a character that’s so fair and only has those super easy TACs from anywhere on screen.
Such a shame.
Anyways my favorite shell is still Vergil/Doom - Doom/Vergil. This is after learning mags/dante.
They give you tacs, top assist, dhc kills, and synergize with more characters.
They may not have super amazing synergy, but it truly sticks to the marvel standard of picking a char you like and some top tier support.
You people are fucking stupid if you think Doom is more self suffcient than Dante, straight up I question if you know a damn fucking thing about thsi game if you think that or that Dante is bad on point. Seriously shut the fuck up you idiots, Chrisis is giving me the look of bewilderement while I read some of this off. Dante can’t cover assist my ass. dante only C Tier without Jam session, what in the actual fuck.
cool thanks for the argument, fuck you too
i’m always willing to listen to reason but insults are great discussion points
why do you think dante’s offense is more self sufficient than doom’s? i’m really curious on why, i don’t know much about the character since i don’t get to fight him too much. i can definitely see the matchup potential in which he can hold his own against much of the cast- his toolset is there if there’s space. but at the same time like i said, it’s the nature of his offense that i don’t quite have faith in (or understand?)
edit: also deviljin, please stop with that weird strawman you’ve got when it comes to doom discussion. he’s a good character with bad matchups. there’s plenty of characters like that in this game- even magneto suffers from that issue. that’s all there really is to it, but whenever it comes around you seem to have this strange obsession with bringing up a strawman that suggests doom is overrated and is actually bad or something.
I contemplated just not posting for a while myself…but yeah the shit about Dante is so bad that I had to say something.
Someone just trying to set shit straight that Chrisis is just a cali burnout who does something cute with wonky characters and then thinks they’re top tier. In reality Doom’s 2 boots go up everyone else’s ass so far that that’s all that really matters.
But yeah…there’s not really much I can add to this without while I am also bewildered. So yeah. BB a lot later.
I’ll come back when people aren’t talking about Dante or Doom anymore. Then I can think again.
Dante would only be C tier without Jam session because he can’t protect assists at all, after the last patch which removed weasel shot, stinger , reverb shock and fireworks.
AKA Ultimate forces people to actually learn to use Dante. Fuck.
i wish someone would teach me how to dante, he’s cool and stylish plus he would open up my team possibilities a lot and oh fuck i am so ass at execution that i can’t hit stinger lv2->teleport aaa
why cant i just do one special move airdash in and do whatever or die trying
edit: im not being sarcastic i don’t know this dude other than doing reverb shock into guns from fullscreen and praying they are dumb enough to get hit by that. also airplay and crystal and raw suicide teleports
I came to this thread knowing the bare minimum about Dante.
Now I’m just confused.
can’t dante tac at most levels of hsd by comboing into dt+thunderbolt tac
I saw shady do it after like a 9000000 hit combo
I wonder if those people who think “Doom can cover his own approach” have ever tried pushblocking the photons. -.-
