Champ changes his opinion ever week. Then again at least he’s up to change his opinion.
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Doom can cover his approach perfectly fine
all you have to do is
sphere flame
xfactor
full screen footdive
BAM
you’re in there
you cant pushblock what you cant see.
People keep talking about how Dante’s go in and force mix ups and pressure. The fact that he has a teleport and an assist makes that instantly possible, but I’d like to see more Dante’s zoning. Practically all his specials put hit boxes on the screen. I’m not a Dante guy myself, but why don’t people do this? Hysterics are nice. Crystal’s hitbox is silly and looks like it can be a good anti jump in tool. People are using air plays which is nice. Weasel shot just looks cool. So does Drive. I guess that purple rain move is only good for incoming, but couldn’t it be used to anti air silly stuff into a full combo? I don’t know. Jam Session into Devil Trigger looks like something.
Would someone mind explaining to me why Firebrand is considered so high tier? I’ve never really used him or seen him used for that matter… Maybe someone could point towards some videos of some prominent Firebrand users. Thank you, in advance, for any and all repsonses!
don’t tell anybody but i’ve actually never played the game and am basing all my knowledge solely on dreams i have after watching streams of street fighter
but it’s more photons + footdive make it harder to deal with his approach from the air due to how much space they cover. he’s still got to be smart (and lucky) with his movement and doesn’t get in for free by any means but those moves certainly help a lot in terms of doing even a little of something to the opponent. stopping their actions a 'lil bit at a time.
though his primary tools being those makes him easier to run away from. or shoot high durability projectiles at.
I hate this thread. I can’t tell if anyone’s serious anymore.
Magneto’s fair, Dante is ass, Firebrand does low damage, Zero and Viper aren’t tournament viable, Doom is top 5.
Short version: good hitboxes on normals, fast normals with good frame advantage, relatively good movement, unblockable “gimmick,” various approaches (rush down v. zoning), high durability projectile, install super with meter build, good mixups with lockdown, good frame trap, and he kidnaps bitches.
you can believe in me, i’m always sincere unless i’m obviously being sarcastic.
i like discussion of this stuff and i like learning that i’m totally wrong and understanding more about the game. i never come with the intention of dismissing whatever opinion and killing discussion unless it’s someone being clearly dishonest or lacking clarification.
i also like long walks on the beach and sunsets
He's not scary and cant threaten anything to immediately call his assist. As Spencer I can literally sit on the ground running offense on him calling my own assists threatening bionic arm if he ever tries to call his own. Anyone who can shoot down forward has an even easier time.
A nice rule of fighting game forums:
Good characters get defended by their players and whined about by others(ie I claim spencer sucks while everyone else whines)
Bad characters(in this case Dante being bad as point, not overall) get defended by their players and everyone else is happy that there are really people who believe this. (ie people who self insert as dante claim he is some of sort of super high skill amazing character while good players consistently rank him lower than top tier and don't talk about him as a massive problem).
It was like this in smash in the past, persists today with Cammy and the gang in sf4, and really has held true throughout fighting game history. He's still great assist, but in the band he's George, Vergil and Zero are Paul and John sorry guys.
EDIT: ~<3he does play the guitar… :o
I wanted to be Paul
And his solo album… well…
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Dante is at least Ringo. That’s just insulting man.
IDK man, whenever I see Yipes or anybody that has a good Dante operate I never see them run into as many problems as I see outlined in the last couple of pages here. Doesn’t mean that they don’t exist, but I don’t think it’s as big of a factor as some would have you believe
Dr Strange is Yoko.
Its pretty obvious you know nothing about Dante if you think he cant cover his assist and that Bionic Arm is even remotely a threat to him while hes on the ground. He has this thing called bold blocking, you should look it up. Dante also does fine agaisnt Vergil even in the ground game since Dante stinger has more range then Vergil as well as eating projectiles and having a much larger vertical hitbox. He can’t threaten immediatly with anything yet he has a tracking, unpunishble teleport lol.
If you’re gonna base your opinions off fighting/watching shitty Dante’s then obviously nothing I say will change that so whatever.
I understand bold blocking, im talking about punishing assists here, there are things called safe dhc’s that you can look up as well. I think we should play this matchup in person! I get to play vs. some very respectable Dante’s including who I believe was the highest placing Dante at EVO (GoX) pretty regularly and most strong Dantes I’ve ever played with seems to agree he is mostly strong as an assist and prefers x factor to assists.
I know nothing about Dante though because I don’t self insert as him though. You have to be the character~~~~
the duke’s waifu is yoko
so he must be john lennon
dante is cool, i like mashing against him
things that cannot be canceled into bold blocking :
stinger except on block which is not what i’m talking about
weasel shot
reverb shot
fireworks
qcbH xx devil trigger
beehive
million dollars
million carats
tempest
jam session
hysteric
hidden missiles