On a side note thought I should mention it, Task standing H blows up every Vergil options but who throws out naked neutral H lol
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Who knew that retarded Sword Normals can beat other retarded sword normals?
Vergil and Taskās stHās have similar hitboxes actually, just Task starts up 1f slower but it karas himself forward less than Vergilās. It doesnāt eat projectiles though, but itās neutral on block for good frame traps.
The one character I really want to see a hitbox guide for is motherfucking Wolverine I sure damn know that those normals are ten times stupider than they look on screen, and itās not only their startup that makes them retarded.
A throw game, TODs off practically any confirm, a command grab, and an excellent mauling game. Of course Iām talking reality Spencer and not ultratheory mid-tier Spencer.
Really? All vergil has to do is st. H or stinger plus call assist and ironman is irrelevant.
He can cut through replusor, Iāve done that shit so many times its silly.
His startup on moves isnāt that slow, not to mention he has others normals than st. H.
And sorry, but anyone can do that to Vergil, its not character specific. And Vergil can just blow XF as well, not like ironman has a 1f command grab to worry about.
Also of course youāre not breaking down the strange matchup because you like talking out of your ass.
People do know the matchups because they play them. Iām not sitting running into ironmans, thor, stranges, and having vergil get bodied or it even being close to even.
Thor is good, its just fun picking at him.
Other than that youāre fuckin delusional.
The boxes on his moves are retarded, I have a psp lol.
Not sure what they were thinking when they were doing the hitboxes for marvel.
Also there should be a hitbox guide up for wolvie.
Seriously. Spencer is the wolverine of this thread before rog beat chris G. Wolverine being in like half the top 10 at majors wasnāt enough to convince them he wasnāt midtier. Now that he beat chris G once the same people who rated him below theory tier firebrand and modok are coming out of the woodwork talking about how BS he is. The same should happen with spence when they realize about half the top players in this game have him on their team.
He was up against a Unknown who hates playing Wolverine and had a day 1 Wolverine. The fact that he lost 2 games and had to resort to XFC to win the other 3 is already more than enough evidence that Wolverine >>>> Wesker, at least on point.
any chars besides zero have xfc counter measures that dont require xf? can viper ex on xfc reaction?
Canāt everyone just snapback on reaction to XF? Most snaps are 2 frames so it will beat everything that isnāt a grab/command grab.
yes she can do EX moves on reaction to an XFGC as well as H Thunder Knuckle xx feint
Snapback is universal.
A lot of characters have invincible reversals like Bionic Arm or EX seismo or even lariat.
If you didnāt finish your chain or have a f/b+H move you can use that to chain into ground throw(ie Shield Skills).
Armor Piercer comes out faster than most moves, same goes for most DP moves, some of which are invincible.
Command grab characters can cancel whatever they are doing into their command grab.
Donāt talk about XF as if its an inconsistent factor or merely a comeback tool for someone to āresort toā. Its a consistent mechanic with many uses. If Wesker can use XFC > Command Grab to win the same match 3 times in a FT3 set its clearly a fairly consistent tool and if anything its a tool against Wolvie in the matchup not showing that āWolv >>> Weskerā
Can we also acknowledge the fact that if youāre tiering point characters, just because one loses to the other in a head to head matchup, doesnt mean that the one that wins that singular matchup is better. (IE x character beats y in the matchup 6-4, this doesnt mean that x character is better)
is there time to xfc zero when he has buster charged?
the universal counters look like they wont always be available ie not standing or having meter. like theyll only work on uh not optimally timed xfcās
You can XF block stun cancel against Zero, itās just hard to do and requires practice.
If he has buster though, not all characters can do it.
weskers xfc command grab is one of his biggest strengths. it is pretty much impossible to react to a 1 frame command grab.
but when you refer to point character gameā¦ that means he is good at the start of the round too? what does he have that wesker, Hulk, Thor, and felicia donāt do better at the start of the round, Arenāt his buttons kinda slow too?
Sorry, what? If Hulk and Thor are āgood start of roundā charactersā¦ you play the matchup like a retard and give them the advantage.
Hulk - donāt go chest to chest. Donāt jump.
Thor - If you do go chest to chest, just jump backwards.
With Logan vs Hulk I often go chest to chest so that;
A) I donāt end up closer to the corner than I need to be, and;
B) He doesnāt have space to safely call his assists either
Of course it can always go in ways you donāt expect, and naturally I will evade Hulk at the start sometimes, but I prefer sticking to him for the majority of the time over backing off.
And thatās usually the other way around with Magneto starts.
Edit: And vs Thorā¦ Iāve never played one in tourney so I donāt actually know :\
Thor is actually a pretty bad start of the round characterā¦ In general he canāt catch you if you hold up back and its not like he has a good OS, sure he could command throw you but that is just a huge guess on the Thor players part since if he whiffs he can get punished. Seriously though Thor is not what I would consider a āgoodā start of round character, infact I would almost call him a ābadā start of the round character