2015 UMVC3 SRK Tier/Theory Discussion. 7/10 First Page Tumblr: Power of snapback, Future power teams

[maziodyne]

The whole point of Viper is that she kind of defeats the opponent’s ability to simply call an assist as a means of throwing her off. You can do it but if it gets caught by seismo…seismo can hit very far across the screen and OTG a bunch of times. Killing them off or hurting them severely without spending meter. Laser is basically a full screen assist stopper. Unless your assist becomes active before the laser releases it will take it out also. It’s just she has to commit a lot more with laser when an assist is not covering that it’s better to stick to seismo, assist and EX moves against rush characters.

Thank god for Viper/Bolts/Jam. It’s like I can laser while I laser and seismo while I seismo.

[Eskills]

The whole point of Viper is that she kind of defeats the opponent’s ability to simply call an assist as a means of throwing her off. You can do it but if it gets caught by seismo…seismo can hit very far across the screen and OTG a bunch of times. Killing them off or hurting them severely without spending meter. Laser is basically a full screen assist stopper. Unless your assist becomes active before the laser releases it will take it out also. It’s just she has to commit a lot more with laser when an assist is not covering that it’s better to stick to seismo, focus, assist and EX moves against rush characters.

Strange is top 2.

Well shit, I need to drop Vergil.
Who is numero uno? Thor?

Guess Thor/Strange/Doom is the best endgame team period. :rolleyes:

[Climhazzardous]

Yeah one more slip up and we might have to exile you.

My viper is better than both of yours tho. How can you exile me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[AceKillah]

Just curious since there is a Wolverine hype train now do people think hes a better point then Wesker? I still think Wesker is slightly better even though Wolverine has better mixup. Mostly because Wesker has better…everything else really…except supers, throw game (mustang kick is godlike but Wolverine got that braindead OS )and st.A I guess.

My viper is better than both of yours tho. How can you exile me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[DevilJin_01]

Just curious since there is a Wolverine hype train now do people think hes a better point then Wesker? I still think Wesker is slightly better even though Wolverine has better mixup. Mostly because Wesker has better…everything else really…except supers and st.A I guess.

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Wolverine has better conversions at super jump height which is kinda important as far HAM options go against like Morri Doom and stuff. Although shit into maximum wesker to deal with super jump height isn’t bad with Wesker either. Wesker IMO is still slightly better simply because Wesker has some semblance of a projectile/zoning game while Wolvie does not. You can’t be a pure melee character and be tippy top tier in this game anymore.

[ThatJollyOlBastid]

The secret to playing Wolverine is knowing when to press st.L.

Weskers command grab might aswell be his normal throw

[Eskills]

Also Deviljin, I honestly think the Vergil-Viper matchup is slightly in Vergil’s favor.
She may be able to seismo and laser, but vergil’s ground mobility is one of the best in the game. (Probably the best if we consider mobility and the characters they’re attached too)
Unless someone takes her full on theory, I can move around her seismos and be in her face whenever I want.

[The_Co-Jones]

On a side note: Taskmaster beats Vergil. All Vergil can do is cower behind his tutu.

[DevilJin_01]

Also Deviljin, I honestly think the Vergil-Viper matchup is slightly in Vergil’s favor.
She may be able to seismo and laser, but vergil’s ground mobility is one of the best in the game. (Probably the best if we consider mobility and the characters they’re attached too)
Unless someone takes her full on theory, I can move around her seismos and be in her face whenever I want.

That’s the thing. I never personally said it was in her favor or severely in her favor or anything. I was just simply stating that it’s not severely disfavorable for her. Especially since she has some of the best options in the game for a second or 3rd spot Vergil. 2nd/3rd spot Vergil is completely in her favor if he’s coming in in the corner.

Start of round Vergil isn’t terribly bad for her either but most people don’t play him there any way. I like Viper’s full throttle theory at the start of the round over Vergil’s one spiral sword and an assist or s.H.

If you do wanna go full theory you have to get around Viper’s focus, EX seismo and jump blocking during anything you may press also. Along with the assists she may call.

[Eskills]

The secret to playing Wolverine is knowing when to press st.L.

Weskers command grab might aswell be his normal throw

Why use either of Wesker’s l’s when he has the godlike cr. m? Shit is full retard.

[Steelguttey]

Weskers command grab might aswell be his normal throw

This. If Wesker could DHC to FoF loops Wesker/Strange would be godlike. Command grabs all day, oppresive as fuck.

[Eskills]

That’s the thing. I never personally said it was in her favor or severely in her favor or anything. I was just simply stating that it’s not severely disfavorable for her. Especially since she has some of the best options in the game for a second or 3rd spot Vergil. Start of round Vergil isn’t terribly bad for her either but most people don’t play her there any way.

If you do wanna go full theory you have to get around Viper’s focus, EX seismo and jump blocking during anything you may press also. Along with the assists she may call.

Ahh ok, and pffft to 2nd or 3rd vergil.

People will realize soon the true BS of point Vergil.

[serpentaurus]

Well shit, I need to drop Vergil.
Who is numero uno? Thor?

Guess Thor/Strange/Doom is the best endgame team period. :rolleyes:

i love when ppl make jokes about thor. Then they get OCV by mighty strike and get serious.

[AceKillah]

The secret to playing Wolverine is knowing when to press st.L.

Weskers command grab might aswell be his normal throw

Wolverine’s jab beats helm breaker…like clean. Fuck him.

On a side note: Taskmaster beats Vergil. All Vergil can do is cower behind his tutu.

I dunno matchup feels fine to me and I play a pretty good (albiet kinda scrubby :D) Taskmaster player pretty often. What makes you think its bad for Vergil?

Why use either of Wesker’s l’s when he has the godlike cr. m? Shit is full retard.

cr.A is + on block which makes tick throws hilariously easy and his st.A is one of the better AA’s but yeah cr.M is better for most everything else.

[Eskills]

i love when ppl make jokes about thor. Then they get OCV by mighty strike and get serious.

I’ll believe that when it happens, but you know we like to talk shit about Thor.
You should know this.

Though if he had some super armor on his normals, the matchup would atleast annoy me like hulk does.

[Eskills]

Wolverine’s jab beats helm breaker…like clean. Fuck him.

I dunno matchup feels fine to me and I play a pretty good (albiet kinda scrubby :D) Taskmaster player pretty often. What makes you think its bad for Vergil?

cr.A is + on block which makes tick throws hilariously easy and his st.A is one of the better AA’s but yeah cr.M is better for most everything else.

I fuckin use cr. m as an AA. lmao
It can even beat both sparda bros helmbreakers AND Dante’s hammer depending on the height.
Outside of tic throws I don’t even touch Wesker’s l’s.

[Robotic]

Weskers cr.M being a great anti-air is so confusing.

[Icyie]

I’ll believe that when it happens, but you know we like to talk shit about Thor.
You should know this.

Though if he had some super armor on his normals, the matchup would atleast annoy me like hulk does.

Thor is so fast super armor on him would make him #1… if he isn’t already

[Eskills]

Weskers cr.M being a great anti-air is so confusing.

I swear, if mags is dashing around unassisted it works too.
The hitboxes they gave moves in this game are fuckin silly.

[Din0]

Zero has fast, high priority, multi-hit normals to make up for his throw game. Dante doesn’t get to explode at the start of the round like other characters and for the most part, has to play patiently and prepare set ups while stronger point characters can go ham with better buttons.