Why exactly does Viper need an assist for vertical control? That’s what I’m not understanding. Wouldn’t a lock down assist be more important to her gameplay? It’s not like a character can safely appraoch her from the air any way.
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expend two bars for getting a hit. Many characters can use guard break/unblockable/multiple 50-50 mixups for similar results
Sentinel or Ammy.
Btw if you don’t count health/damage/etc, Phoenix is probably the best point. Magneto-tier movement with teleports and self 50/50s.
Its not untechable, its just similar to the X-Factor tech, you can still tech the 2nd TAC if you read what the Spiderman player was trying to go for.
I don’t think it really changes Spidermans place on the tier list, especially considering you have to put iron man on your team for this. In my head I want to say Spiderman is really good and top 15 or so, but I actually don’t know anything about the character.
Viper/missiles seems kind of weird. I don’t want to call it bad, but I just don’t know how it works.
Well jam session is practically a lockdown assist that’s also an anti air.
yeah I’ll pass
Everyone should make a list of their Top 5 Point Characters.
Here’s mine:
- Viper
- Magneto
- Zero
- Wolverine
- Spencer
you have to make a video and do shit on a live stream in a major and then win the major before most people accept tech as viable or practical.
top 5 point
- viper
- zero
- magneto
- vergil
- wesker
Is there a video for this? Is there some reason this can’t work with Spider-man on point using assists like Tenderizer or Deadpool’s guns?
1.)Vergil
2.)Zero
3.)Spencer
4.)Wolverine
5.)Viper
Top 5 point.
Modok is probably the next best after those 5 then Weker and Magneto.
I think it works by the same reason ironman can be punished on hit with proton cannon. No video yet but some players have tested it and it does work. Only bad thing is that you have to play ironman.
can modok do good damage/chip when hes flying away?
Viper has a majority of the best tools in the game against him. He is pretty much situated to the ground unless he’s in DT and Viper generally doesn’t lose to anything on the ground. Even at worst. If its like heavy metered Vergil she kinda has to block but the threat of a seismo or ex seismo before he can activate is pretty big. She also has pretty obvious ways of not letting him be able to fight if he’s in the second or 3rd spot. I’ve never really had a big issue fighting Vergil with her.
Zero gives her more trouble than Vergil since he operates better at super jump height and covers his whiffs better without meter.
Yeah Wolverine beats most of the cast during the first 5 seconds of the match…but once Wolvie gets spaced out it should basically be in Mag’s favor.
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I still don’t think vergil is THAT good unless you are using the roundtrip glitch. With the glitch, I can see him as top 3/5 easy but without it he has lackluster air mobility and mostly thrives off getting braindead hits that people should be better at avoiding. With the glitch though, he is a completely different character in terms of controlling the match. I put vergil in top 3/5 still because the glitch isn’t even very theory oriented. People are just lazy, and it doesn’t help that vergil is the kind of character that often lets you get away with being lazy.
I read that thread. Ironman is one of the confirmed and easy setups. There’s lots more. There are good characters in that list.
Whereever spiderman is in the tiers this brings him up in the aspect of momentum. Doesn’t help him get that first hit though, which is mostly how the tiers are based.
I’d wager it doesn’t move him up at all, unless spiderman in spot two is giving you something that Viper/Jam shell wouldn’t.
Like a team Mags/Spidey/Missiles, getting access to unblockable incoming on a mags team? Fuck that shit.
i know niggas hatin but i respect the final fantasy references in your previous post. definitely sounds a lot cooler than a fuckin smegma beam lol
Stinger blows her up. Swords invalidates her entire toolset. She can’t footsie him at all. the only way she should win this match is if you are psychic or the Vergil fucks up. You know a matchup is bad when EX seismo is a bad choice at times. I’ve played that match a ton and if Vergil has meter Viper is helpless even moreso than most characters. Luckily most people are retarded and will still run him second against her. Its her hardest match up by far.
Is this top point character thing based off start of the round or is it just in general. Because I think some characters would change on list based on that.
Magneto, Viper, Zero and Vergil are the undeniable 4 best points. Only the fifth spot is worth debating.
How the set-up theory works is that your team is something like Spider-Man/Iron Man/X, you basically get the first hit, TAC Infinite them with Iron Man, then on their second incoming character, Angled Proton Cannon DHC UWT rinse repeat. You don’t even really need to TAC again after the first one, and both Unibeam and Repulsor Blast are great assists for spider-man so it’s not as bad as it sounds. If Iron Man wasn’t so mediocre, I’d say it would be a legit tactic, but I can do similar stuff with Spider-Man/MODOK and I get MODOK instead.
5th spot for top 5 point should be Wolverine anyway. His start of the round options and pressure with assists against any team, combined with his ToD potential is too good.