Dante lost a ton of invincibility on hammer, half of his meter gain and damage per combo, the best anti air in the game by a landslide (5A), vanilla acid rain loops, and lots of range on his normals. He was also one of the best and most convenient DHC glitch recipients. He could even do the glitch, but he didn’t need to because that would mean he lost meter he could have gained from killing you solo. He was also arguably the best in the game at using both invincible assists and now those no longer exist. In return, air play was slightly buffed, and he gained Vajra assist which is way worse than either invincible assist. How is this a slightly nerfed character?
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Doom has a far better airgame, he’s a better zoner, his normals are better, his mixups are better, his movement is way better, and his air pokes are some of the best in the game. Dante only has a stronger ground game but Doom never has to be on the ground. Have any of you idiots ever actually played this game?
Edit: Also, Doom kills off of every touch and converts off every touch.
The only place Doom’s point game is better than Dante’s is Online.
2 bar footdives need nerfs.
But this is also the same place that Hulk is top tier.
something makes me want to believe that dante is equal to doom but you actually play that guy so ???
also thanks for making me realize footdive is basically hammer but like ten thousand times better
He picked it on me at the January Local Battles monthly. I’d never seen him play it (or seen that team in general) so I had a really hard time. Until Joe goes down, its very scary.
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Ton of invinciblity. It’s still invincible and bops a ton of stuff. Now you just cant flowchart with it as hard. Half his meter gain is an exaggeration. A good Dante combo in vanilla built around 2.8 - 3.5 bars unless your talking about looping acid rain more then 3 times which was pretty finicky against most characters. The range on his normals is still crazy even with the frames not being great. He lost 5A but in return they made 5B better as an AA.
So lets make a list.
-nerfed hitstun on a lot specials a lot of specials gained hitstun instead of ignoring it which made his meter game from holy shit thats retarded to goddamn thats a lot of meter
-nerfed damage from goddamn why did he kill me off that to oh ok now he has to reset me to kill me (unless he has Vergil/Zero/Dorm dhc)
-nerfed 5A hitstun and hitbox
-slightly nerfed the start-up invul on hammer
explain to me how that ISN’T a slightly nerfed character. the only character higher on the list of “this character should have been nerfed hard as fuck but instead got away with a slap on the wrist” then Dante is Magneto.
-Doom has a better airgame true but Dante has the option of burning a bar then having a better air game then Doom that can actually compete with the other top tiers air game
-Doom is not a better zoner wtf are you smoking
-His normals are better? See now you just trolling
-His mixups are better? Ok I’m done.
Doom never has to be on the ground? I guess that’s why his air game is so useful against Morrigan, Hawkeye, Magneto, Zero and Dorm.
Wait…
considering how good he was in the first place, even with those crazy nerfs he’s still really good. Vanilla Dante was out of control, way too stupid, way too good, and he spoiled everybody. Now people would rather QQ about new Dante instead of learning how to play him for real
Yeah unless there’s a way for Doom to actually do any of that shit against those characters which are very prominent in tourneys…I’m not getting it.
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Sounds like DmC.
my doom has the best mixups and my dante’s mixup is qcb H xx devil trigger
Guys the hidden Point Doom tech is the same place as the hidden Strange Thor top 2 tech.
He doesn’t even have a QCB H move.
You are some hardcore wizard.
Doom got better movement than teleport characters now?
Jet Stream is qcb H iirc
dante has a qcb H move
doom has better movement than dr strange [a teleport character], better air mobility than jill [also a teleport character], pls stop generalizing
generalizing goes nowhere in “theory” only “how to play the game well”
Wait…wait…you’re telling me it’s not HCB?
I’ve been doing HCB for 2 years? Foolishness
Anyone want to bet against Doom winning the major again? Oh wait it’s just because the good players are choosing to play doom out of character love and he has never ever killed a character while out on the field!!!
wait doom won apex right
ill bet that he wins SCR too
radagasts on doom
Yes. Doom won the majors… all by his lonesome. Are you Doom? That was a very Doom-like thing to say.
Spoiler
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Doom lost the last few majors, too btw.