2011-2012 NFL Discussion and Fantasy - Payton and RG3, where they going

Pretty sure Brady has talked shit before. I don’t know where you’re getting this “holier than thou” thing from because that certainly has never been the case. Maybe with Manning, but definitely not with Brady.

And by “Favre saga”, I’m referring to all of Rodgers’ critics who said that he’d never be able to play QB for Green Bay and that he’ll be a bust, and that he’d never be able to win a Super Bowl like Favre did, etc. I wasn’t referring to the Green Bay Packers organization.

Really? Look what I found.

Brady’s been cocky before. He doesn’t say much now, but that’s because someone shut him up. :rofl:

That humble pie IMO.

And… what was I supposed to get from that? He didn’t say anything stupid… Maybe I’m missing something? He played it humble the whole way.

EDIT: I’m not being sarcastic. I have no idea what was so bad about that interview. At all.

Wow. Are you a Patriots fan? Haven’t seen you post in here before now.

I am going to agree with CTG I don’t see anything really bad about that plax spoke out and brady gave a slight sarcastic laugh. Nothing really that was too mean spirited about that. The final score makes it funny, but he kept it pretty cool.

So, Rodgers making sarcastic comments about not organizing lockout practices = arrogant, but Brady sarcatically laughing and making a sarcastic “okay” comment at not being able score 17 points = not arrogant. Got it.

Rodgers is the same guy who did an SRK after throwing a TD, and had the heavyweight belt on him after the Super Bowl. He’s swag. Deal with it.

And it’s LOL when people try to define how a champion should act. I’m sure Rodgers gives enough of a shit about his demeanor to change it in order to appease some jackass on the internet. Keep trying to enforce make-believe rules there.

One things for sure, that game was a statement game, showing the packers havent missed a step since last season. WE STILL ON FIRE!!! I hope finley stays healthy this year, cause he makes a HUGE difference in the offense. I am very eager to see how the rest of the division plays out, especially the bears/falcons game, i want to see if the nemesis of the division has improved with thier additions. although i heard marion barber is already questionable for the opening game, lol. time to see if roy williams learned to not drop balls.

So far I see the Packers splitting with the lions, bears (very debatable) and maybe losing to the Chargers.

Edit: I didn’t put Falcons because they really didn’t address the defense and Tampa eeh.

Edit2: As for the Giants the extent of those injuries on D and Eli.

I’m an Eagles fan and actually can’t stand the Pats - that doesn’t mean I’m going to take any bait to bash Brady. And here’s the kicker for you - I like Aaron Rodgers, but he’s acted like a douche.

Brady said “Does Plax play defense” - what’s the problem? Aaron Rodgers went on and on about the criticism about their lack of arranged camps during the lockout. The point had been proven. To be honest, I didn’t even know there was any criticism. If that’s how he acts everytime he gets a bit of criticism, the media gonna eat him alive sooner or later.

Here we go. Nothing better to say to backup or disprove my opinion, so you just decide to berate me. K thx.

Who gives a shit if Rodgers came off as slightly arrogant in his interview. Can a player not be able to jab back at reporters now a then, my goodness some of you are making shit sound like he was saying “Fuck you, you all suck and I rule” comments here.

Go back to some of MJ’s interviews back in the day when he was at his prime and some of them were taking pokes at the media and critics. Go back to some of Bird’s comments back in his interviews and you’ll see him taking pokes as well.

Point is, a lot of other great athletes have done this before. What Rodgers said is nothing new, and more importantly nothing that should label him as arrogant, it’s not like he was coming on stage with fireworks shooting all over and saying “We’re going to win 4, 5, 6 champions” and yadi yada bs.

Please man, enough of that complete and utter nonsense here. As for the Lions, I do believe they will be the team that poses the biggest threat to the Packers in the NFC North this year. However I trust our offense vs the Lions Defense more so then the Lions Offense vs the Packers Defense.

The Lions have a great Line, a great Line, and that is the biggest asset that actually makes me scared of playing them. However after seeing last night, and how Rodgers picked apart a blitzing scheme like as though it was a Madden game puts my mind in ease. I don’t see how the Lions will be able to defend against the entire repertoire of weapons the Packers has unless the O-Line of the Packers somehow completely collapses.

Stafford also has to prove to me he can go on for 16 games, and if he can’t, then I don’t see how they’ll be a real competitor without a him. I don’t believe it’s going to be an Auto-Win like how it was for the majority of the past decade when we played against them, and I’ll say that it will be closer, but the Packers are simply overall the better team and if they play to their talent, they shouldn’t lose to the Lions.

Again, I trust our offense to be able to put up more points against the Lions defense, then the other way around, plus our QB has proven himself to be one of the best, while Stafford still needs to show he can go through an entire season without having to be wearing a mic on the sidelines.

Ugh. I thought I had a lot of points last night with GB’s defense and kicker. But Noooooooooooooo. Our league counts yards along with points. And would have killed the saints to not allow a red zone td? Gb kicker needs some work.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Let Arod be Arod. Yeah he’s hella cocky right now. So? He’s got a ring and he was the superbowl MVP. He can do and say whatever the hell he wants.

Every QB needs to be like Brady. Get an injury that causes the rules to get changed for it.

It’s my opinion. You agree or you don’t. Deal.

I couldn’t care less if you agree or not. He came off petty and douchey in my eyes. No amount of arguing is going to change that. I still like the guy overall, but I call it like I see it. Iverson is one of my favorite basketball players of all time - but he did and said some pretty dumb stuff in his career too, which I acknowledge. I can’t stand Tom Brady or the Pats in general, but I won’t jump down his throat for something I don’t perceive to be inflammatory.

And yes, once you win a championship in the NFL you’re expected to show a little more maturity. Right or wrong, that’s just what it is. Eventually you gotta learn how to play the game that takes place in the press room if not for you, but for your team. The media doesn’t forget anything. The Eagles got dubbed the “Dream Team” cause of a 2 second sound clip from Vince Young. It’s one thing to be brash and show some personality, it’s another to poke at the media. He’s gonna put himself and the team in a position of dancing on pins and needles when they’re in front of reporters if he doesn’t get it together. Swagger is no excuse. Take it from someone who saw first hand how the media hopped down AI’s throat a the smallest things after a while - pre “practice” press conference. He’s in the spotlight now.

Agreed there.

Maturity? Like Ben did with those girls :wink: am I right? :stuck_out_tongue:

You sound like a bitch. It’s my opinion. Deal.

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDMAN saying:

You either agree or you don’t.

Opinion sure but that doesn’t stop it from being ridiculous for you to be blowing it out of proportion. Winning Championships is great and all, and I understand your statement of maturity, however this is hardly far from being immature and out of place. If you can’t poke fun and sarcasm back at the media without being called a douche then that’s just full of complete nonsense.

Worst of all you’re making comparisons of Rodger’s case to the likes of Allen Iverson whose made statements 100x worst then this to validate merit for the media to run down his neck along with many fans within the prime of his career. What Rodgers said is completely acceptable, you either must’ve read Seifert’s post on espn or whatever, however I’m sure you are the .1% of the entire NFL base who’ll think he was a douche for making that statement while the rest will have brushed it off, knowing he was only being sarcastic.

Hell even Espn which likes to take small statements and blow it out of context didn’t make a big news about it, and so shouldn’t you, but again, it’s your opinion.

I’ve said earlier I’ve heard things much worse from greater stars of their established sport, but I guess some people want all of their Champions to be Saints who shouldn’t say anything no matter the case (Which obviously has been proven wrong multiple times over). Even being sarcastic and poking fun now is considered a wrong doing. No harm done, move along now.

I’m hoping that T. Williams injury isn’t significant otherwise Shields will be the starting CB and for him, I have my doubts because their are times he’ll show up and other times he’ll just disappear. However I will say this, if we stay healthy and continue on our scoring rampage, I would say that the Packers finish 13-3 this year with Rodgers getting over 30+ TD’s. The Defense however still gives me a cause for concern, because although the defense did make some great stops, we need to get the better fundamentals down, like tackling for one. Lang also needs to get his head into gear and stop it with the penalties as well, and our Special Teams looks like complete ass…again, minus Cobb of course.

Ok. I don’t. Moving on.

See how that works?

I could care less if he’s a Saint - one of my favorite players is AI remember? My point is that it was dumb and petty for him to go back to that and if he keeps harping on every little thing it’s going to bite him sooner or later. I haven’t read any report of ESPN about it for the record.

Also, I’m not harping on it. Where discussing it now, that’s fine. It hasn’t ruined my day. I saw this morning and said, “Wow, that was dumb”.

And yes, it’s one thing to poke fun at something, it’s another when that something happen when? During the early summer when everyone was on Brees’ jock for organizing practice? It should’ve been history by now. That’s why it was petty.

Let’s say just for discussion sake that Rodgers does eventually get himself in trouble with something he says 3 months from now. Am I petty enough to come back here and say “HA, I told you so?” Nope - chances are I probably won’t even care at that point. I’ve been in more heated discussions than this and didn’t care about it hours later.

History has shown that athletes that care too much about what the media (and fans) have to say about them eventually get themselves into hot water. Rodgers is no different. If you didn’t think it was a big deal, then fine. Whatever. I think it was a mistake and that he should continue to let his play do his talking for him. It’s done wonders for Vick.

It must seem to bother you that much, otherwise why continue writing to defend your awesome opinion. I don’t care if AI was your guru fan favorite, my point is, your comparison of AI’s comments to Rodgers was I’m sorry to say, a stupid comparison that has no mirror reflection. When and if Rodgers does say something out of context, I will be the first to criticize him for that as how I always do with the G-Men on these threads, and I wouldn’t need you to come out and say “Ha, I told you so”. Because well, I know so.

History has shown that the majority of the time, when stars make a sarcastic comment that wasn’t meant to hurt nor debacle anyone, that they don’t take it personally and move on (Rodgers case). Thank goodness there is less people like you who’ll take everything as though it was intentional, while the rest realize it was a joke. However I don’t want to continue this any further, because it’s obvious you won’t stop unless you’re the last to make the comment to defend your statement, no matter how ridiculous it may be.