How do you get away with murder by telling such a bullshit story?
Those policemen got to be mentally retarded.
Trust, some cops have done it themselves to get with murder. If you’re a white man, just say it was self-defense, because you’re automatically assumed to be a great contributor to society unless you’re Charles Manson.
Many small handguns do not have a safety. In fact, people specifically buy these so they can pull them out and shoot and not have to worry about taking the safety off. This lady most likely had one of those in her purse for some reason (bad place) and not secured properly.
Ignoring disabilities, the type of people who have to worry about safety being on are the type of people I wouldn’t want owning guns. If you are going to buy a gun, learn how to use it.
You know how white women kill their husbands and say they were in fear of them, and then get away with it?
Well white men can do the same thing, but against black males.
There is a tier list:
S+ white women
S white men
A Hot women that are not white or black
B Hot black women
C All other women
D Minority non-white/black men
F Black men
Higher tiers always win against lower tiers. Higher tiers can make up crimes, kill lower tiers and just get away with it, and pretty much do anything they want.
Now the matchups aren’t always that bad. But white women and white men are 10-0 matchup against black men. It’s a hard counter. But black men vs minority non-white/black men is only say a 3-7, maybe even 4-6 if the black man has some money and status.
White women though are 10-0 against everyone. Just really bad design. In fact, in Arab countries, they actually soft ban women in general, because otherwise the results are too broken. In the US there aren’t really any bans, but probably they should be considered because the results are just so lopsided.
All im gonna say is, it was probably a striker fired gun. Probably discussed, but why the fuck wasnt the trigger guard covered with at least a MIC holster, and moreover, why the fuck did she hand the bag over knowing it was in there?
Shit, at least run a #3.5 connecter & NY1 spring combo if it was a Glock. But unfortunately, its too late for that. 
The Furious One - Yep. The best safety is the one between your ears.
In this post: speculating without any fucking sources. You know nothing about what type of gun she was carrying or the details of her carry system.
Side note: Anyone who doesnt know reading this, modern designs, both semi-autos and revolvers, striker or hammer fired systems, are very safe and designed not to fire under any circumstances unless the trigger is pulled. Dont believe what you see in movies.
With a trigger pulled so easily by a 2 year old, most likely stock striker fired trigger. Very short take up, hits the wall, then break? Unrealistic for a 2 year old? Unless she was carrying a 1911 or something similar that runs with condition 1 with the safety disengaged aka condition 0. I mean, if it was a LCP or J-Frame (Talk about speculation, really? A 2 year old with a typical 8lb trigger with a long take up? Umm hmm.) I dont really find it likely. J-Ride had it right. The hammer argument in single action? Eh, again not likely since that requires quite a bit of force for a 2 year old to bring it back for both semi autos and revolvers, UNLESS the mom did it herself which is retarded if she did.
Another thing, Glocks are half-cocked, roughly 60%. The take up finishes cocking the striker and the break disengages the sear to release the striker. XDs are fully cocked 100%, all the trigger pull does is drop the sear. M&Ps are similar, roughly being 95%, with the trigger bars shepard hook camming the sear to release the striker. Striker fired handguns while having different systems, have one thing in common: much shorter consistent trigger pulls. For a 2 year old to pull the trigger, it is entirely plausible.
Something like a LCP, Keltec, LC9, etc., essentially stuff with no safeties, employ a shrouded hammer so it cant be cocked to SA, effectively making them DAOs with heavy trigger pulls just like revolvers. The trigger IS the safety. Impossible to go off without pulling the trigger. Again I have to ask, do you think a 2 year old can engage the long 8lb+ heavy trigger, let alone pull it all the way to the rear for the break? Im pretty sure they wouldnt be able to pull the trigger on a Sig P250, which has a lighter smooth but looooooong 6lb trigger.
The event is extremely unfortunate, it isnt the guns fault either since it only did what it was asked (i.e. action: trigger was pulled, reaction: cartridge was fired) but for a 2 year old to pull the trigger, my money is on a striker fired gun due to the striker fired system design of a short trigger. While youve handled rifles, handguns are a completely different story. Unless youve fired both striker fired and hammer fired weapons and understand how the systems work and how they differ, you will think my post is just speculation when its speculation with sound reasons. If you think im wrong, id love to read your argument why. 
I’ve seen three year olds fire 1911s.
You’re not wrong about how guns work. In fact, I already explained why Glocks don’t use external safeties, and how guns rely only on a heavy trigger pull to be safe, previously, in less words. Chances are it could have been a striker-fired weapon given their popularity but again: you don’t know. The details have never been released.
My issue is that you’re asking things about why the woman didn’t use a MIC holster or put a new connector into her Glock to make the trigger pull heavy, without even knowing the details of what type of gun was carried or how it was being carried inside the purse. Your argument is complete speculation. Who is to say a MIC holster wasn’t already in use? If she still had the lanyard, it could easily get caught or snagged and come off, giving access to the trigger.
It could have been ANY of the situations you’ve mentioned, yet you talk with certainty. The woman was stupid enough to purse carry with her children around; she could very well have been stupid enough to carry a gun without securing it in there.
Honestly, a two year old would barely have long enough fingers to reach around the grip, grab the trigger safety and disengage it. My money is on a slim el cheapo compact with no safety.
I mentioned the 1911 argument so thats kaput.
But okay, lets assume it was an slim el cheapo. What KIND of el cheapo do you think it was and why? Jimenez, Cobra, Hi-Point, etc? Cause while these are extremely piss poor cheap to buy, small enough for a 2 year old to handle AND grip, they all have 1 notorious thing in common. Ill give you a clue: it isnt negligent discharges. Saying “slim el cheapo” doesnt mean much, give some examples. But that will be hard to do with no handgun experience, wouldnt it?
Then i read your comment on the MIC holster on how it couldve, “easily [got] caught or snagged and come off, giving access to the trigger.” How much handgun experience do you have? Im serious. A MIC holster, while it only covers the trigger guard, is extremely solid and requires a bit of force to release the retention. You can dangle a gun off the lanyard with the holster in place and the retention wouldnt release the gun. Bounce it around, it wont come off. Reputable holster designers make sure they have this retention, whether its MIC, Blackhawk!, Serpa, Crossbreed, Remora, etc.
But lets assume it was a cheap holster, say a Uncle Mikes, cheap old used leather holster or something. Then were back to the original argument. In history, firearms that have the most NDs where someone shoots themselves or someone else have been striker fired guns. Why? Short, consistent triggers. I mean fuck, you can google “glock leg” and get plenty of examples. And no, its not limited to Glock, its all striker fired handguns. Not even 1911s when widely used by law enforcement and the military, had this widespread issue with an even shorter trigger due to its safety. Same thing with revolvers.
So striker fired guns with no safety, idiots, instead of indexing the trigger finger when drawing, try to shove their finger inside the trigger guard while drawing. That combined with a short trigger pull equals gun goes bang. You dont need to train to understand it or go to a range to see what it does when loaded, its common sense; dont put finger in trigger guard, gun wont go off. So a two year doesnt even have to get their hand around the grip to fire a gun, just pull the trigger. The toddler couldve done that very thing when moving his/her hand around in the purse. Plus, the blade your referring to as a “trigger safety” is a drop safety. Its not to prevent you from pulling the trigger because its disengaged when a trigger finger rests on it. Its to stop rearward movement of the trigger with no finger on the trigger if the gun is dropped.
PS - If youre going to mention derringers as an el cheapo, spare me. That wouldve had a ND long before the incident.
DOUBLE POST - Looks like my speculation was correct. Various reports are saying it was a M&P Shield 9mm, which is a striker fired subcompact from Smith & Wesson. Here is one example:
Short trigger that a 2 year old can manipulate. The purse had a built in holster which is inline with what i implied about cheap holsters and in this case, no retention, just a zippered pouch. Its just unfortunate she left the purse in the hands of a 2 year old. May she RIP and prayers go out to her family & child.
@Wasted - Think twice next time you point the finger exclaiming “fucking baseless speculation”.
just posting to laugh at @wasted. The quick ownage from con was laid down with class and dignity. Well played con, well played
Sorry Wasted, but lol
That was the most astute series of posts I’ve read on handguns, I’m actually walking away from this thread a more educated person. Thank you @coN
Don’t go taking out the trash on garbage day now lol.
I’m just gonna put this here in case anyone has yet to discover … “garbage day”
That garbage day clip is what NRA members think reality actually is. If only the guy with the trash can was packing heat too!!! He could have defended himself by shooting the shooters bullets before they could graze his fine white flesh.
…kIDS SLAY THE DARNDEST THINGS!