1-800-help-a-nub; The FAQ

[Songo_KthX]

But how do you know what to practice during game play?

The reason why there are combo videos and FAQs is because discovering the most damaging combos, character specific combos, cross up combos, etc. is too difficult for a beginning or even average player.

If you didn’t know if X character whiffs a move at Y range you always punish with a slide for a knockdown then how could you apply it in a real match?

Saying not to watch videos, especially of highest level play, is nonsense. Videos are essential to discovering strategies and combos you would have not discovered on your own.

To be fair, the reason you’re never going to be a top player is because you don’t try to do things on your own and find your own style of play. Just emulating what you see is not enough. Look at a guy like Justin Wong. He discovers new things for situations all the time and applies them when he can. He doesn’t have set combo’s to use.

[Spiku]

Someone rep the OP. Great amount of info in one place, good job man.

[Melvargh]

If I could rep you, I would.
Brilliant thread, tons of useful information.

[Cuz]

This is ultra nubery, but you don’t need to imput all the directions listed in the combos, like the ones found in the challanges. For instance:

If you have a combo that is
236+p
236236+ppp
You don’t have to do the hadoken motion 3 times to get the combo.
236+p
236+ppp
Will work.

Another example
4(hold)6+p
4(hold)646+ppp
Can be done with
4(hold)6+p
46+ppp

Finally something like
HK
236236+ppp
Can be done with
236+HK
236+ppp
If the character doesn’t have a 6+HK move.

[System_1]

GOOD STUFF very helpful… can’t wait to get home and watch those guile videos…

[BentoBox]

I disagree with this. While watching videos may give you an idea of when and where to FA, throw, etc, nothing beats actual practice in real matches.

You need to get used to reading your opponent, finding his tendencies and then choosing the appropriate response. Simply watching videos will not help you do this

But how do you know what to practice during game play?

The reason why there are combo videos and FAQs is because discovering the most damaging combos, character specific combos, cross up combos, etc. is too difficult for a beginning or even average player.

If you didn’t know if X character whiffs a move at Y range you always punish with a slide for a knockdown then how could you apply it in a real match?

Saying not to watch videos, especially of highest level play, is nonsense. Videos are essential to discovering strategies and combos you would have not discovered on your own.

Thanks for the input Clx and VF4. You are right in saying that watching videos was not thorough enough of an answer as it doesn’t explain what it is that one should be looking out for~ I thus wrote a little something based off your two posts to complement the original answer.

Extremely thorough. Awesome thread. The only thing I’d perhaps add is a little section on kara throws. The term is thrown about a lot here and not everyone will know what they are.

Oh! You’re totally right, that question came up so often too; I don’t know how I forgot to cover it. Anyways, I posted up two links explaining what Kara throws are and also listed all the characters that could pull it off and how~

btw you CAN FADC non cancellable moves, for example the first hit of guile’s cr.HK can be FADC’d though i’m not away what else you can do with it

Hmm, interesting! Do you know if Gule’s c.HK is an exception to the rule or if ALL non cancellable moves can actually be FADC’d?

I’ve tried FADCing Bison’s s.HK and cr.HK and could not pull it off.

I’ll mention this case as an exception for now until someone can give a more thorough explanation~

3rd use of a blockstring is to apply pressure on the opponent until the pushback from all the blocked moves places you into a safer position. ending with a move that puts your at neutral/plus frame advantage is a plus

also, www.sonichurricane.com has a great compendium of fighter related terms (along w/ the srk wiki)

Thanks a lot for the input! I added these to the FAQ.

Also added the names of everyone who helped create this~ Thanks again everyone!

This is ultra nubery, but you don’t need to imput all the directions listed in the combos, like the ones found in the challanges. For instance:

If you have a combo that is
236+p
236236+ppp
You don’t have to do the hadoken motion 3 times to get the combo.
236+p
236+ppp
Will work.

Another example
4(hold)6+p
4(hold)646+ppp
Can be done with
4(hold)6+p
46+ppp

Finally something like
HK
236236+ppp
Can be done with
236+HK
236+ppp
If the character doesn’t have a 6+HK move.

Yeah, I should talk about motion shortcuts as it seems to be a vital aspect of SF4. I’ll get to that later though, I have to head out. Thanks!

[Twist]

btw you CAN FADC non cancellable moves, for example the first hit of guile’s cr.HK can be FADC’d though i’m not away what else you can do with it

Hmm, interesting! Do you know if Gule’s c.HK is an exception to the rule or if ALL non cancellable moves can actually be FADC’d?

I’ve tried FADCing Bison’s s.HK and cr.HK and could not pull it off.

I’ll mention this case as an exception for now until someone can give a more thorough explanation~

Careful guys, I think you’re talking about two separate things. I think the original wording of that line in the FAQ needs re-writing to make it clearer, but it is correct.

BentoBox’s FAQ was saying that if you do a ‘special move cancellable’ normal move, then you can cancel it with a FA - but if you do a ‘NON special move cancellable’ normal then you can’t cancel it with a FA.

epy0nkaru is saying that you can FA a ‘NON special move cancellable’ normal that your opp has thrown out.

…at least that’s the way I read it…

[toddler316]

Good job on consolidating this information,it’s all been posted before but it’s nice to have it in one spot,and nice to see a newer poster actually posting something informitive.

[Keits]

Just wanted to personally say ‘thanks’ for this. Its a very helpful contribution, so keep up the good work.

[ca35]

Lots of great information. Thank you.

[System_1]

Great work, I’m proud to know you bento

[Nesk]

Great thread and lots of information. Thanks for posting this! :tup:

[SooMighty]

how do you cancel out of an ex move and dash back or forward? haha im serious tho.

[ClxJames]

how do you cancel out of an ex move and dash back or forward? haha im serious tho.

Let’s say its an Ex Shoryuken

First the Shoryuken:

:r::d::df: + :2p:

As soon as it hits, you then press:

:mp:+:mk:, then :l::l: or :r::r:

[j0ns]

Can anyone get a list for how much damage each characters ultra does?

[Melvargh]

Can anyone get a list for how much damage each characters ultra does?

Test it in practice mode?

[System_1]

-www.allisfighter.com
Yet another SF4 fansite. What makes it different from the others is the fact that it has chat in which you can easily set up games, tournaments and whatnot. I briefly described its features in this post:

Yo I been to this site a couple times, but I don’t ever see any1 in the chat rooms or anything. Just wondering if it is always unactive or if I just got bad timing.
Also, thanks for the info this stuff helps.

[ClxJames]

Can anyone get a list for how much damage each characters ultra does?

Linkage

[soulbankai]

This thread is great. I’m glad that OP made this. I still don’t even know everything listed on here. I’m STILL lost when it comes to those terms for fighters. lol. This REALLY helps the scrub in all of us. :tup:

[System_1]

Nice, thanks!