So, does every single one of Gief’s jump-ins get stuffed by Cammy’s standing roundhouse? Just wondering.
It’s all timing
I wanted to blow a kiss at justin.
Most do, but you shouldn’t be jumping at Cammy. Try walking up with standing mp and throwing out KKK lariat. GH OS is also your friend here. Also, don’t rush Cammy down, that’s actually her job shockingly enough, and most Cammy’s will eventually do something punishable or jump at you. Anti-air or SPD as the situation dictates and commence pushing them into the corner and applying safe wake up pressure.
Don’t forget about baiting whiffed ST.HK for the ST.LK EX.GH punish.
yo Zangiefs what do you guys think about ex green hand not knocking down anymore?
Is it even possible to crossup splash/knees cammy after an ex GH without getting hit by her godlike dp?
Yeah but you gotta do it a little late.
I use knees as opposed to splash because splash hitbox is massive
cammys dp is siberian blizzard fodder
With increased pushback on block for Bison’s LK scissor kick, will we still be able to punished blocked scissor kicks with a lp SPD?
IIRC you couldn’t lp.SPD a blocked lk scissors in Vanilla or Super, perhaps increased pushback will equal the increased SPD range. I think lk scissors will still be safe, but tougher for Bipson players to apply continuous pressure. MK, HK and EX scissors will still mean SPD.
Can somebody answer me this:
Why does this combo NOT connect on chun li crouching.
cr. short > cr. short > st. strong > st. short xx EX-GH.
I can do this combo 9/10 times no problems. The st. strong ALWAYS is blocked.
Is this just a glitch or is chun-li’s hitbox really that messed up?
Worstgiefever/HCM any enlightenment?
If it is getting blocked, then it is just a timing thing. The frame advantage you get doesnt change whether your opponent is standing or crouching.
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You can’t time it right.
Just for shits I turned turbo on. It doesn’t connect. I’m absolutely baffled.
Wish I could, but I don’t have the gas money. I’m unemployed and inbetween school. FML.
I will try that combo later on; but Chun does have a hitbox shift on hit that makes some combos drop.
Edit: must’ve been drunk combo I listed before works always on standing chun
Anyways. I tested against crouching chun for about twenty minutes. I couldn’t get s.mp to hit once after a c.lk, either as a stand alone or after a c.lp or c.lk.
But c.lp x2, s.mp, c.lk xx exgh works, just less damage and can’t be done after a splash
yea i tried it for a while in training mode and it doesnt work. I recommend c.lk x4 xx EXGH. Not quite as much damage, but it still hits hard.
some good discussion on gief in the Cody forum:
http://shoryuken.com/f330/ssf4-cody-arcade-changes-250836/index11.html#post10075189
What do you guys think? I haven’t fought too many good Cody’s, but the ones I have fought tend to start playing a zoning game that consists of rocks/fake rocks/ and lk ruffian. Cody isn’t geared as much to be a zoning character like Sagat or Juri are, but it can still take work vs. a cody that knows what’s up.
Mad funny that in the tier thread recently peeps were saying that shit is 7-3 Gief. I think thats pretty extreme. Cody can zone the fuck out of Gief but most Cody’s don’t work on that aspect of their game, its a rushdown character afterall.
6-4 in super, 5.5 -4.5 in AE now with less KD opportunities IMO.
7-3 because of his lack of wakeup. If you can block lk ruffian on reaction from a bad space for him its a free SPD.
Rocks have bad startup, like 29 or 30 frames. Even EX rocks have shitty startup. Just block or hand them if you anticipate them.
Don’t jump so much and get baited by fake rocks
Exactly how many characters have godly wake ups? Rogs’ wake up is even shitter than Cody’s but you wouldn’t consider that a 7-3 match. I think basing MU probability entirely on the fact that a character doesn’t have a braindead wake up option isn’t an entirely accurate way of determining the odds. Good Giefing beats a whole mess of characters on wake up. Even Sagat. Doesn’t make that MU lopsided for Gief in any way. And now that Gief has less KD opportunities than before, I cant see how the gap hasn’t been bridged a little more vs Cody.