Zangief Strategy/Match-up Thread

short jump? jump using up, then up forward instead of just up forward and zangief jumps a shorter distance.

Here’s a good example of the short jump from UltraDavid.

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It’s very useful for mixups against anti-air.

[edit] hop to jump, my bad.

Ughhhh. Does anyone pay attention??!?!?

SHORT JUMP != SHORT HOP!

Short hops are a part of Capcom vs SNK 2. Short jumps are in SF IV.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhh

Yeah but I’m not talking about what’s easier, I’m just saying… try to st.lk his electricity… it’s risky. Buffer st.lk EX GH? Hits easily every time.

lariat will never beat neutral jump fierce into hands ggpo

Ive st.MK -> EX Ghanded him out of Electricity before.

Well what i do against cammy’s i focus her cannon drill, after i hear the first hit connect i release and then punish works everytime i think for me cammy’s are the only ones i punish with focusing cause a cannon drill always comes out. and if she tries to mix it up with that spinning grab i lariat her.

I don’t know if this is already known but I’ve noticed that when blocking a string that would normally count as a combo you can mash ex spd or sometimes spd between what would seem to be solid strings. A good example would be when Ryu goes from cr.lp to cr.mk. Even though I recorded it on hit to combo, on block I can spd through it. Does this have something to do with the blocking frame advantage or because it is a one frame link? The only times that I couldn’t mash were when I turned on the turbo switch.

That being said do you guys usually mash 360s p while blocking? Or is just mindgames were sometimes you do and don’t? How about when shotos srk fadc?

It had to do with the blocking frame advantage.
I don’t spin the stick when blocking, although there are so many times I wish I was because people drop links all the time.

Against shotos, part of my gameplan is to bait the srk fadc and I nail them with spd/ultra.

I guess the opposite is true as well. I recorded zangief doing his kneedrop, cr.shorts, ex glove combo and I was able to NORMAL tiger upper out after the kneedrop or after a cr short.

are there any moves he can focus absorb dash into grab?

Just to name a couple just to get it started. Im sure there are many more…well not mabey many.

Any projectile shot at very close range, which would be dumb on the opponents part, can be absorbed and SPD.

Chun Li’s spinning overhead kick can be absorbed, dashed and grabbed.

Elf’s body splash can be to a certain degree, not really guaranteed you get the grab though.

I’ve tried to do the overhead before but if they’re watching out for it they can escape.

more specifically are there any normals he can do this to? Like rog’s sweep or sagats sweep etc…

Try it again, she can’t recover in time if your timing is correct on the dash. It dont really matter anyways though, her leg keeps her in range of SPD if you just block it.

Nope, I just recorded Chun doing lk overhead followed by backdash and couldn’t spd reversal or fadc spd. Although super/ultra will catch them on block.

can you hit her recovery with the focus attack?

You can but it’s not gonna crumple unless it was done really early.

hmm, I always wonder how useful it is to focus attack lvl 1 the recovery of moves. I mean there are some moves you can try to dash into and throw but there are some you can hit with focus and back dash out of , like is it useful to try and lvl1 focus attack the tip of bison or chuns FK’s? does it even work?

EDIT: sorry for all the basic Q’s, im just tryin to learn this dude.

whew, good luck timing that. those fk’s are fast.