Okay, so even when churning butter and mashing out light SPD, you can still get tick grabbed by Laura apparently. That seems pretty stupid.
Okā¦all other match ups seem pretty decent if controlled effectively (EVEN SIM) but I came across a Rashid who just spammed qcf.Lk and qcf.Hk and when I finally got in he just V Skilled out of there.
I could not do anything. Even J.SPD couldnt hit him as he was always covered by a fireball.
It wasnāt as if I wasnāt patient, in fact one of the games timed out but OMFG that match-up is hard if played in that manner
Any tips?
Any tips for buffering into super from light normals? I canāt imagine popping a complete 720 from nothing during just the hitstun from a jab or short.
Tried the shortcut? Some people find it easier to do 720 with.
I canāt combo CC HP > dash > SPD, help ;(. Wasnāt this thing easier?
Brick (the highest ranked gief atm) has this nice ability to make his opponents really outplay themselves.
Shortcut?
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That being sad, I cant do 720 with it in combo for some reason ;/
But in fHP > c.mp > super you can do just
6HP > 1c.mp > regular 360 for super to come out
That combo only works if the st.HP is fully charged
Ohh so that what it is, daamn.
Look who was right from the beginning since beta1. Zangief is the weakest character in the game by far.
Itabashi,Hagejin,Snake Eyez,Justin Wong, EVERY good player say the same. Where are you fuckign arguments graham troll wolf? why did you never pick him in one match? you was the troll from the beginning who said he will be top tier and so good. where are all you guys now since the release? noone of you guys play him anymore? ooooh what a suprise. gid gud
give it up, there will be still people who say he is good, even is all the best zangief players in the world together say he is too weak in this game.
Iām struggling hard with Gief. If you have videos of his match ups, would be a little helpful. I need that fight pad asap. Monday canāt come soon enough.
What are you guys doing for oki after jab SPD?
Dash c.lp beats a lot of buttons if they Quick rise (beats 6f attacks I think and it usually outrange most characters c.lp/c.lk. Ditto with dash into another jab SPD
Dash iaSPD beats quick rise into f or n jump attempts.
If they donāt quick rise i usually go for f+hp meaty or block/v.skill
But overall it seems like if they quick rise they can just jump back or back dash any followups. Which isnāt actually terrible, if the safest option for them is to retreat and push themselves back into the corner.
Also been messing with V skill some. If you hit and hold v.skill just until you can tap f to move then let go, it does the ending hit right away. This can be useful to punish some things or at least force a block.
Where are those guys(about 2-3 IIRC) that said Gief was going to be complete and utter garbage? Or that Gief didnāt have damage or combos?
But I guess back on the topic of Zangief, Iām glad that Snakeeyez was able to find his footing with the character. At first, it appeared he was a little uneasy when he played him in the beta but heās really found his pacing with the character. He had quite a bit of dash in SPDs that worked and heās really taking advantage of his V-Skill. Hell, even though there appears to be a general consensus that Gief has one of the more weaker V-Triggers, he found a way to use it on the opponentās wakeup, pretty much forcing them to be right near him for standing low into SPD tick throw.
I want my opponent to fear my other options over SPD. People donāt like command grabs because generally speaking, you cannot see them so they have to guess. The fear of SPD is there once FIGHT is on the screen. So approch getting in on using you other tools and using SPD as a final option. I think thats a more effective way to go about fighting up close. You have to almost condition your opponent that staying still is what they should do to deal with your pressure.
Stand jab is a good jump check tool, and it was designed that way to check people out of the air and dispromote movement. People are already pre conditioned to run away from you, especially at low levels of play.
Just walk toward them and do nothing. Jab check the now and again, maybe fish out a a counter hit or two; Nothing crazy. People are pre-conditioned for grapplers to go nuts but thats not how geif plays in this game. If you want a character that goes crazy on their knockdown, pick a different character.
Where did Itabashi and Hagejin said Zangief sucks? Any source?
He probably put words in their mouths since both of them are playing Birdie instead of Zangief.
Birdie is definitely an easier character.
He was getting away with murder tho.
Maybe itās been changed since the beta, but I remember lvl1 VT being quite punishable.
Snake his opponents were always respecting it and trying to get away, while they couldāve just punished him, or at the very least pressure him.
Iāve really grown to like Gief, but I really wish he could combo into VT outside of heavies. Having to be already in VT in order to extend combos or punish things with jabs and mediums really sucks.