I have almost every last match in marvel from final round including the finals, I just have to wait and get confirmation from shinblanka on the DvD what matches besides top38 will go on there etc.
I uploaded a few matches day by day so click and subscribe to stay updated fella’s thanks.
Top 38? jesus.
Are you a lawyer? If not, then shut the fuck up.
If you ARE a lawyer and are suggesting I need a legal opinion, take your head out of your goddamn ass. If we’re seriously to the point in Marvel History where we need lawyers about hosting videos, I’m out.
… you’re not a lawyer, are you? What’s your involvement here?
Throughout the multiplicity of claims involved, those are the least compelling. What are we talking about - image rights? At what point do I show Sanford, in which specific videos? Was there an expectation of privacy? What jurisdiction was XXX filmed in, and what are the relevant image rights there? At what point was consent not given and yet I filmed anyways (answer: never)? At what points did I have explicit verbal consent vs implicit? There was the stupid game of “guess the Marvel player” before, and people were guessing blindly - are we sure Sanford is the player of record? If I misidentify someone else as Sanford, or Sanford not as Sanford, what’s the damage I’ve done that entails action? What’s the commerce here?
What if we took an important legal step back - and this is why I think you’re talking with your head stuck far up your ass - what other product elements might be construed as infringing? How are people enjoying their “custom” Marvel with “custom” music? :rolleyes:
At what point in knowing me have you ever seen me do anybody wrong? At what point have I treated anyone unfairly? You think I’m going to be a dick to Sanford so you think you, as a particularly flaming asshole, need to Speak Up?
Like at what point of me breaking my back to be nice to everyone did you think you really need to lecture me on being good to people? Are you contracted here to try to sue so that Sanford can get a share of the $5000 I’ve spent hosting videos (that’s just hosting) for all to enjoy free of charge over the years?
Like who does that kind of thing? How do you get confused about me kinda naturally being a good guy? How fucking thick is your skull? Isn’t it a bad sign when the thickness of your skull is double your manlength?
Go fuck yourself. I put you on Ignore and I’m well reminded why.
If there’s something between me and anybody else, I think that’s between me and them. If you despise me enough to really fucking think that I need your shitty advice in how to do right by people, you don’t have a fucking brain cell in your shit-filled head. So shut the fuck up and go the fuck away you asshole.
Seriously. I’m sorry you deal with the kind of people you deal with in your life, but I think I’ve made a fucking decided point to just be a good generous person and your sickening “OH BOY WE PROLLY NEED TO MAKE MAHVEL LITIGIOUS” mentality is disgusting.
I can count the people I’ve done wrong by in the last ten years on one hand. Don’t ever think you need to give me advice.
For those who think I’m full of myself: I’m really not. It really fucking bothers me when I do wrong by anyone ever, which is why you’ll find that I am utterly fucking repelled by creeps. I realize not everyone is like that and that most people don’t get it, but it’s really not hard to leave me alone to try to generally do good stuff. There’s a handful of reasons why updates to my site have slowed down significantly, and assholes like ElderGod are high on that list. I guess that’s the beauty of the Internet: it lets normally good people look like complete assholes. :tup:
“People who hate people: come together!” “No!”
John Preppard laying down the law, and yeah thats kinda a dick move telling someone to remove matches after hes invested a lot of time for the game providing thousands of matches and well yeah its pretty schemey. anyways in a lighter note marvel will be played in dreamcast 
Preppy, now why are you lying?
If you’re going to take a quote apart it would do you well to actually read the entire post so you don’t look stupid when you miss the entire point:
Here’s why:
If you don’t understand, I want Sanford to keep playing and you to keep hosting and for him to not ask his footage to be removed. Understand?
At what point have I said you did somebody wrong? At what point have I said you treated anyone unfairly? While you were arguing with various posters in the past such as Shaded I actually backed you up and removed the entire assault from you to myself. Did you forget how every attempt where someone trashed you at GameFAQs, who was there to shut them down, regardless how much karma loss it would result in. When you had that Megaman/Magneto argument who backed you and diverted Shaded’s attention. I also took a ban from SRK for defending you, so show some respect. You think that you know what I think but you don’t, I didn’t say you were a dick to Sanford, so don’t assume. You calling me a flaming asshole? Insults for no reason, good job showing your true colors I guess. The reason I posted I already answered, I want Sanford to keep playing, he’s inspired many Sent players, I want you to keep recording/hosting, and I don’t want Sanford to make you take them down.
Where did I lecture you on being good to people? You just snapped and attacked me in your post for no reason. If someone at work or other place made you feel like you’re a dick to others then that’s between you and them, don’t place your emotions onto me. Since the part I quoted above doesn’t even apply to me, I won’t even waste time responding to it.
If you realize how you just went on a tangent and snapped on a random poster then I believe an apology would be in order, wouldn’t you agree?
For what, because when you come in and shit on every player trying to play the game by telling them it’s pointless because it’s so broken and Magneto is so random that I make a post saying Marvel takes skill and that people should still play it because it’s fun?
elder god should be banned imo
great to see chris s raping
Fo being a dumbfuck. Your initial “I wish I were smart, but since I’m not, I’ll post some legal bullshit that isn’t true with the hope that everybody is as dumb as I am so they can’t call me on it,” post got exposed and you’re playing the victim. You’re the world’s slowest learner; you spend all your spare time with a mouthful of it, and yet you still don’t know dick.
Don’t offer legal opinions if you’re not a lawyer.
Don’t think that you need to advise me on how to do right by people.
That’s all. I found it disgusting that you thought we needed your (completely bogus) “legal” opinion, and after giving myself time to think about it, I still found your comments repellent. It’s just not a righteous way of even looking at the “problem”.
If anybody at all wants their videos to be removed (which would be a minor pain in the ass right now because of the ongoing ‘recent’ script which I’m doing so that Fugee has time to finish encoding the excellent videos only he has from Season’s Beatings), that’s probably something we can handle privately.
I will typically lean towards an initial “no, but get back to me in a month or two after you’ve had time to think it over” because I think it’s easy to lose perspective. If after a month of thinking about, that’s the way you feel, I don’t see any real problem with that - or I can add you to the “hide” list in the Search page if that’s what you want, or any number of things which will be much easier when the “Recent” unlock script completes. Remember that I’m not doing this to make money - I’m just doing it to provide a resource for the community. I think most of us have forgotten the days of trading videos on stuff like DrFunkenstein’s legendary GoForBroke hub as we move into the post-commercial (!) post-download(?) YouTube age, but I’ve been willing to ‘tough it out’ (still spend $170 monthly just cuz I like y’all) to provide a little more glue to our foundations for a while. You wanting to divorce yourself from the process for whatever reason is your call. I’ll just think it’s weird.
In Sanford’s particular case, I know we had a conversation at Evo that he may never believe (plus he may have very understandably been out of his mind at that point, so may not recollect any of it), but was true. There’s been subsequent rumblings on his part that he misunderstands (or maybe simply doesn’t care, which is also fine) my feelings for him, and that’s probably something that’s best handled between the two of us. If we need to grandstand about it or inject ‘legal’ interpretations into it, that just fucks the ability of two people to have a normal (e-)relationship.
It’s like – Dark Prince never really got that I just don’t care. I play Marvel to have fun, and I break my back taping shit and spend enough to take a really nice trip to Europe because I think it’s really important to give back to communities. And anybody who’s known me knows I’m way burned out at this point and stumble blearily through taping stuff, but you know I’ve kept doing it because I think there’s a lot of great people who appreciate stuff. Even if some days my only fan may be ruin–. 
But you know you go to a tournament and randomly run into people like Jose or Demon_Jim or the strange Wolverine player from SDCC or all sorts of just completely random people you’ve met over the years and it’s fun and it’s cool. And you know hosting a non-commercial site isn’t the best economic plan, but it’s been a fun way to give back.
Feel free to fuck with each other, but just generally leave me out of it. I’m generally going to be on your side, and if I’m not on “your” side it’s probably because I believe you’re a good person but just off on this one. I mean, who really in their hearts is “evil”? I don’t think many people are. You might enjoy being a dick because you think it’s amusing, but that’s not a lot of people. You might be grimey or amoral or whatever and in those cases yeah, I’ll stand against you, but – I ain’t got nothing against anybody who has any reasonable leg to stand on. And that’s why I’d generally prefer to handle things mano e mano.
Perhaps we should have a Peace Drink at Evo? I’ll buy a round or something.
I’d get a little heated too, if I spent all that time and money to catalog the history of a niche game, then saw some dude even bringing up the concept of ‘legal action’ related to all that time and effort.
It is pretty funny to imagine what a real lawyer’s reaction to this entire subculture would be, though.
Will you shut the fuck up already? Jesus christ you could actually be decent at MvC2 if you played the damn game instead of writing idiotic essays on SRK all day. How the fuck are you gonna come after Preppy for all he’s done for the Marvel scene?
You might be the worst poster on SRK (granted I don’t read the general areas)
You’re retarded if you think I came after Preppy or you don’t know how to read, reading my post you would understand that.
I didn’t start the take video down topic, nor did I support it, I just commented on it in reply to Sanford and Jaguar saying I disagree so shut the fuck up and read the discussion so you don’t look stupid jumping in, same for you Adam Warlock, you’re still hurt from GD and SH owning you and are jumping into shit which you know nothing about trying to feel not dumb and important.
Preppy is upset because I tried to help my offering legal advice which was from an actual lawyer but Preppy now made it clear that he doesn’t want any advice and doesn’t even want the issue brought up and he made it clear that it’s between him and Sanford and I didn’t mean to intrude into his personal issues and I already stated multiple times my case that I don’t want Sanford to quit Marvel, nor take down the videos, nor Preppy to stop doing his thing, so stfu and stop mashing for meter.
I think Preppy and I are at an agreement, sort of, so there’s no need to instigate.
If anyone still can’t understand what’s going on read the previous posts or PM me.
By posting after me in this thread (or any srk thread after you have seen this one) you grant me the irrevocable right to distribute all past,present, and future videos bearing your: name, likeness, skills, lack of skills, myspace or facebook address, drunken acrobatics, or sister/mom (whoever is hotter), an unlimited number of times across an unlimited number of websites, forums, newgroups, ppv sites, and dvds which may or may not be sold out of my trunk.
Hey SRK has law students, attorneys, and lawyers of various kinds, ya know. I’ve personally met 3-4 and spoken with several more on here. I myself am a lawyer with specialties in copyright and internet law who’s done some scholarly work on things like mods, machinima, and fighting game match videos, and I expect to begin publishing articles on those or similar subjects next year. What do I think about this stuff? Come on, man, obviously I’m down. But intellectual property law and cyberspace law have lots and lots of adapting to the new realities of new technologies, so while no one has ever gone to court over whether unauthorized match videos are legal, it’s a pretty sure bet that they’re not.
But that’s not because the players in the vids have some valid claim. I can’t think of any legit reason based on any law I know about that would give a player in a match video filmed by someone else any reasonable expectation of having any rights to that actual video. Maybe some privacy-based thing like appropriation? That would require both that the vid make money and probably that the player’s face be on screen just to be mentioned in court, but even then, it would probably have to be a lot of money, the vid would have to use the player’s likeness unfairly (ie without express or implied permission, which is unlikely because every player knows when he’s getting filmed and can stop it but never does), etc. No way, man. This isn’t really worth considering.
No, the reason match videos probably aren’t kosher is that they probably infringe on the rights of whoever owns the rights to the game itself, since the video takes in large part the copyrighted audiovisual work of the game (that is, the graphics, sound, and music). All the rights to that audiovisual work are totally owned by the company that owns the rights to the game (obviously), and those rights include the exclusive rights of reproduction, modification (including any derivative works), and transmission of the work. Match videos probably involve something like reproducing or modifying the original audiovisual work, and sending match vids around is probably something like transmitting that original audiovisual work. Again, totally untested in a court of law, but these are pretty good as best guesses go.
Anyways, Preppy, don’t worry too much about being liable to the players shown in your videos, both for legal reasons and because obviously no player is going to sue you anyway. The only thing you (or anyone who makes match vids and sends them around) have to worry about is Capcom, but really you don’t even have to worry about them because they know about match vids and are obviously down with them enough to have never sued anyone on them. They can always change their minds, but don’t count on it. I’d personally like to see things like match vids be legal so that we don’t have to worry that the companies that own our games will start suing us, but in the meantime, whatever, don’t worry anyway.
:lol:
Haha, should’ve known there would be a lawyer reading this thread. Still, you know what I mean…I was thinking some Melvin Belli-ass dude taking on a case where he has to learn about Pringles and Easy Buttons and Mango Sentinels.
Melvin Belli: 
You are totally spot on in agreement with my thoughts upon this non-contentious subject, especially the notion that it’d be Capcom or A/V rights holder(s) that would actually have reason to object. Hence my bafflement: I’ve worked closely with A/V related law (it’s no secret I’m a multimedia developer, and most of my work for some time has been in regulatory capacities), and your comments make 100% sense. This is a good elementary primer, and I think the key claim if anybody ever cared to press this matter would be the transformative nature of match play providing an educational experience. There’s a value add when it is people playing and not the AI.
I think I’ve operated and continue to operate in good faith, and as such it is not something I’m concerned about. A large part of the reason the site is up is to support Capcom/Capcom games, and they’ve generally been pretty supportive of those types of actions. But invoking “legal” in this realm is the equivalent of shouting “Hastur Hastur Hastur” in Arkham, and I hope people understand that they’re insane to do so. I would hope that anyone claiming to be a real lawyer would understand that. And if you are a real lawyer and don’t understand this arena … for ---- sakes man do your homework first. Seriously. We all operate by kingly benevolence, and we would be well suited to quietly be kind to each other and never accidentally awaken the legal demons that could choke the life out of parts of what we enjoy. :tup:
Most random thread derail in this thread yet. :tup:
Refly Challenge at Evo.
Run it!
:wtf:
Preppy for M-Fing President!
The unimaginable!!
Hey yo…nevamind yall know who the fuck I am! Anyways Preppy all I gotta say is in reference to that post DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!! Theres a lil Detroit in Everybody lmao!
Bill Hicks? H.P. Lovecraft? Shit, I am definitely taking you up on that drink you offered at this upcoming Evo, Preppy. I wanna chat it up.