Ive tried to look for an Arthur TAC infinite with maybeee some decent ideas. I think ill try again sometime.
Also Arthur outputs around 600k-700kish on average starting at zero bar which I would say is respectable. At least its not Strider damage lol. And in some situations he can combo off of his projectiles at full screen (jump projectile into ground 236 L or M).
Hawkeye’s damage is even worse, so I’m not sure where you got that idea from.
[standard BnB ending in LV1/ending in LV3]
Chris 730k/968k
Arthur 645k/829k
Hawkeye 501k/830k
The way I see it, Arthur is more about the damage he does in keepaway than the damage he does in a combo, though I’m able to break the 700K barrier comfortably in a corner. With meter, there are fullscreen combos he can get that through the 500k barrier, after all - not many characters have that, after all.
Arthur on point isn’t THAT bad. I’ve wrecked some Magnetos and Dooms with the Arthur + Doom Missile keepaway. Very match-up specific, but in those cases he does pretty well for himself. Oh, and landing a Fire Bottle OTG loop in the corner is just too satisfying.
Bitches don’t know bout my Arthur/Strange/Shuma team.
Arthur: Daggers
Strange:Bolts/AoE
Shuma:Mystic Ray
Daggers all day every day, yo.
The team is complete ass, but it’s the most fun team to play in Ultimate marvel, IMO.
Arthur/Strange is really good, but I never liked how meter-dependent the two were. Also, that team lacks any way to deal with strong pressure (WESKER). If you can make that team effective you will have (more of) my respect.
I never really had a problem with wesker with this team, since he’s pretty limited from full screen. Dealing with pressure, I would usually go for the last-ditch Heavenly Sword and call AoE. If they block it, they’re stuck in blockstun for enough time for me to escape.
The real problem is Vergils and other zoners who tear this team apart.
So what tier do you guys think Arthur will be in if he has an easy TAC infinite? I’m guessing it will probably run down the clock pretty well and give him lots of meter. It will probably make Arthur/Doom the best zoning shell in the game, just because you can run down the clock so easily and gain meter while doing it. Shit will be cheap.
No, but it would probably warrant putting him in a higher tier than Chris. Hawkeye, Morrigan, and Dorm would still outclass him in a few areas. Pretty much, Dorm would be better than Arthur no matter what in the scenario you are picturing.
Alas, such are the costs that come with being a true knight.
It would change very little. Remember when chun li had the only TAC infinites and still no one played her? How about now where plenty of characters have them yet we only see sentinel/doom infinites in actual matches? A TAC infinite does nothing to help him in his bad matchups, it does nothing to fix any of his weaknesses from low point damage, low mobility, or limited air throw followups.
I’m not a big fan of solo tier lists to begin with either. I’m not sure why you would be so concerned with it. Arthur is as good as he is regardless of how people perceive him. Not to mention, I’m pretty sure he does not have a TAC infinite. I’d like to be proven wrong, but I really doubt he has one.
While it won’t help with his bad match-ups, it will give him a very good way of building meter and making his support that much stronger. Does he have a quasi-infinite in Gold Armor? It would at least be an additional perk for getting his Gold Daggers assist.
So I was facing a Sentinel before, & just for joking around I did nothing but j.daggers against him. The thing is, it worked really well because Sentinel got kinda “stuck” lol. What I did was normal jump, immediate QCF+L, (slight delay) L, (even slighter delay) L, so that the last dagger was shot close to the ground right as Arthur landed, & did it over and over again. He couldn’t jump out because the top dagger went above him right as the blockstun from the last dagger finished. If he stood up, all 3 daggers would connect & would keep in blockstun, and he tried doing Hyper Sentinel Force but it interrupted the startup. You guys should test this out, because I honestly trapped him the whole time until I messed up the j.QCF+L. It probably works on Nemesis & other big bodies too.
Shame Arthur already beats the big characters pretty clean. If only air daggers was useful against the rest of the cast… :bluu:
Some random Arthur combos in here for you guys.
<a href=“http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers/b/368028794”>http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers/b/368028794</a><br><br>9:05:00<br><br>I used Arthur’s shield counter. Crowning moment of achievement.
I don’t know how you guys do it. I find myself getting mauled due to no mobility and his low reaching normals :o especially with anyone with an air dash.
Kinderparty and Rikir both at Winterbrawl. Two of the best Arthur ! ! ! ! !
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cr.M and jH are really good for long range pokes!<div>I wish his cr.L was a little better though =/</div>
ya but what do you do against up-forward? maybe is my inexperience with Arthur but I’m pretty much defenseless against it especially online. I can’t get any in person practice for a week or so.
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I don’t know how you guys do it. I find myself getting mauled due to no mobility and his low reaching normals :o especially with anyone with an air dash.<br /><br>
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cr.M and jH are really good for long range pokes!I wish his cr.L was a little better though =/</div>
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ya but what do you do against up-forward? maybe is my inexperience with Arthur but I’m pretty much defenseless against it especially online. I can’t get any in person practice for a week or so.<br>
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Heavenly Slash. It’s not ideal, but it’s HC canceable.<div>Also, I got log trap assists. If me HS hits, LT will give me a full combo. If it doesn’t, I’ll remain safe anyways.</div>