I think U1 also loses to the HK follow up. Might just be with U1 as a reversal.
Does Yang have any frame traps that will stuff someone trying to mash srk through my shit? I only know of his cr.lp > cl.s.mp > c.mk frame trap, but that doesn’t stop shoryukens.
Halp
frametraps dont stop invincible things. blocking does.
I actually like MP palm for frame traps on some characters that don’t have a good punish for it. Like I knock down a Ryu, see he doesn’t tech his fall, I shimmy like I’m gonna go for a jab or throw, but then step back and MP palm. It’s great against DP and tatsu. Makes shotos think twice about just getting out of the corner. ticks into MP palm is a good option too when you want to give a person just enough breathing room to do something they habitually rely on for defense.
DP beats Palm due to invincibility.
MP Palm is -7 on block, as well.
A spaced MP Palm can trade with or beat DPs. Depends on the character and which DP they used. A spaced MP Palm is also difficult to punish in some MUs on block as there is a lot of pushback.
Though it really doesn’t help against mashers without character tailored setups.
The pushback is really nuts. I remember trying to come up with meaty MP Palm combos and I basically couldn’t against most characters because they’d be farther than Yang’s cr.MK/U1 could reach (…worked against Cammy though!)
Some pretty low level questions
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if a player keeps using focus attack and charge to lvl 1 in my face, what’s the best way to blow that up? Maybe mk.roll?
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how do I AA with lk.roll effectively? People jump in on me and when I do get a DP in it usually trades
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I can do the cr.lk links pretty consistently but I can’t get the lp rekka to come out quick enough. I guess just practice?
I don’t understand why people still focus vs yang lol. It’s actually quite funny.
Though I’ve been hit by red focus about 3-4 times, panicked and mashed the rest of my rekkas. Didn’t end well.
Ah gotcha. What if they keep charging, same deal I guess?
And I still can’t get the Rekkas after the links. I’ll plink the 3 cr.lk and then do Rekkas too late. Thoug I can do it if it’s one cr.lk then Rekkas for some reason easily.
Oh well, I guess I’ll just keep practicing it
It helped me to practise using a visual cue. Aim the next button input (rekka lp or hp after the qcf in this case) at when you see the hit marker. As Her0 said, it’s pretty much right away.
Same thing works for the c.lk, practise getting it as early as possible to get it consistent.
Rest is just practise and muscle memory
i get hit by the ones that go over lows, like elena, sakura, etc
my reflex is still to go to low forward. gotta train myself to do stand mp into slashes instead
I’m about to put out a video on how to deal with common situations in SF4 with Yang. Wait for it.
Yes! Like, how to deal with charge chars please. D:
How is Yang supposed to use his meter effectively?
I assume 2x slash FADC for resets or keeping the pressure going if they block the slashes. Or Ex slash to punish things like sweep for some match ups? Also if I have full meter should I use super or is everyone doing an RFC combo nowadays?
That’s a really hard question with no clear cut answer. Just never ever use his super except maybe for a style kill if you feel like it.
I think meter expenditure depends on your strategy. Shameless self promotion but I recently wrote up a small 3 part series about creating strategy, with some discussion on how your resources come into play. I really implore you to check it out.
Gotcha on the meter management topic otori. That’s a pretty broad topic in general now that I think about it
And thanks East! I’m gonna give that a read today.
Is there a place where I can learn Yang’s dive kick setups/uses?
I fucking love using Yang’s super; I don’t care how useless it is! He’s the Zero of SF4.