Took a look at the Yang changes, the only ones I’m even remotely concerned about is the divekick change and the cross up change. He lost some damage on ultra which sucks, palm was bullshit so of course that’d get changed…
it’s mostly just some damage nerfs, as long as the cross up is still usable these changes are cool to me.
All Yang needed was maybe some stun nerfs and a few slight damage nerfs. He definitely didn’t need this shitty treatment. lol @ the standing MP nerf when it wasn’t nearly as good as Yun’s to begin with.
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but the U2 change (3 frames slower) means we can no longer FADC the second Mantis Slash into U2, right?
You will still be able to FADC 2nd slash into U2, it will just be a 2 frame link. That is, if by 3 frames slower they mean that it has more startup from point blank range, which is 4 frame startup in AE.
But it won’t work after MP Palm FADC, which was the most damaging way to combo it. His nerfs were stupid, and it’s funny that Yun got it much easier.
It was already like this. It’s because they made Yang reasonable and made Yun ridiculous, giving him stupid hitboxes, better normals and crazy damage. But they felt that Yang was the one needing nerfs to hitboxes, normals and damage.
Those are the throw values for Yang and Yun’s EX grabs currently in AE. Meaning Yun is still going to have a 1.3 EX throw range, while Yang’s is probably going to be 1.0x
I wonder if it will still be possible to do non-animation U2 after a HP palm in the corner or if it will only work with MP palm, as well as U2 after HK roll DP in the corner.
Yun got it pretty bad though. No throw invulnerability on his EX command throw at all.
it sucks he got nerf…pretty badly…wtf honestly is all i have to say. why did they have to nerf his u1 and his already fucking ass u2!!! It starts 3f later and why the damage nerf?! yang got tossed under the bus because he’s a twin. Some of the nerfs are unjustified tbh.
How the hell did Yang get nerfed even harder than Yun? Yang is good but no way did he deserve most of these nerfs. Capcom couldn’t have seen him as more of a threat than Yun. I’m still going to main him but this is beyond disappointing.
it’s been real yang forums. i enjoyed reading otori and dustlooper posts alot. and no i won’t be dropping yang, i’m just dropping ae for umvc3 and 3so. the nerfs that yang received are fucking retarded. like why did they go at him this hard?
No we can still combo into u2 from 2nd mantis slash fadc.
Man, yang was nerfed hard…
His divekicks on block seem to be -4 at worst,but he still(?) has frame advantage if they hit opponnet’s waist and below.Also stun from 100 to 50 was too much
Damn it st lk has a good range and it was nice for some counterhits,but now with 5 fr startup…
Far st mp was useless as it is so doesn’t matter.
Seems hk roll can’t punish full screen projectiles.That sucks
His dragon kick was easily punishable before .so 4f more on block…whatever
Now why did they nerf ex zenpou tenshin?!Ffs it didn’t have yun’s reach and yun’s reach wasn’t nerfed
Tourou Zan 3rd hit damage down to 60 for all versions(?).I don’t get it his bnb does little damage as it is.
Wow… he got a buff ex slashes true blockstring lol.
Well everyone was expecting palm nerfs.Understandable nerfs.
Super about 1 second shorter ok
I don’t get the ultra nerfs.Really the best way to combo into them is from fadc slashes.Now that’s going to do shitty damage.And ultra 2 only 410 damage.They gotta be kidding us.Does the 3f slower mean that we can’t punish projectiles from almost fullscreen?
I think that yang’s nerfs were too much.He didn’t deserve that treatment…
It’s like Capcom’s main initiative was to destroy the twins the best way they can, but why hit Yang THAT hard. sigh All I can say is that I’m really looking forward to UMVC3 now…
EDIT: And the sad thing is, Fei is still #1. That doesn’t make any sense.
Yeah, the nerfs are just ridiculous. Yun got the nerf bat, while Yang took the sword. I’m just eager to see which character(s) people are going label as “broken” now. No matter how “Balanced” Capcom makes these games, scrubs are always going to try and find a scapegoat for their losses.