i would be happy if stand short was 4 frames and we get our cross up back.
[Back Step]: Special cancel timing towards the end is changed from frame 24 to frame 26.
yaye , backdash nerf .
One of the most useless TC in the game gets a knockdown?
Hmm…
I would just like some solid opinions from japanese players on his changes so far from whoever played him. Maybe we’ll get some after this beta testing Friday? I don’t know.
this must be a joke, yun keeps to gain buffs while yang gets more nerfs
Did anyone see Yang’s combo 3 knockdown during the location test? Dang, I’m upset about these nerfs and did not get any trade off to ease the pain.
I’ve been reading through this thread for the past like 15 minutes…
I find all that’s been said weird as hell…mostly because every high level AE player I’ve talked to has been saying Yang in AE is more ridiculous than Yun, and I’ve been reading that Japan thinks so too.
And I was just going to second yang :c
It’s mainly the slk and crossup nerf that has been too damaging. If capcom could just return these two things, yang would still be amazing. Right now, he’s probably become “meh” or only considered slightly good.
Heya,
I am not a Yang player, and am not in this forum much, but gotta say after reading what they are doing to him, I absolutely do not agree. Yun nerf, understandable. Fei Long damage nerf (my main), understandable. But Yang? Was just fine as was. In fact, I put him at the perfect level of balance for the game. Not overpowered, has many reasonable attributes, needs skill to use (ie, can’t sleep walk with the character), and has a balance of good and bad match ups. What’s up with all this nerf stuff? I assume he is guilty by association to Yun, looks like Capcom just assumed everyone on the Yun bandwagon would jump to Yang, so they pre-nerfed him. Lame. Sorry for the situation, hope it isn’t as bad as some think. I considered him worthy Fei opponent in AE. Anyway, if there was a petition, I’d sign it.
My condolences Yang players. As a Yun player, I was miffed at his nerfs. However the nerfs to your character was far worse and its sad because Yang wasn’t even as good as Yun in the first place.
Hopefully they give him his crossup back and fix his standing short…
Has I’m becoming more efficient with Yang, his s.lk is important to his defensive/offensive game including his cross-up mk. His dive kickgame game is often 50/50 with shoryu characters, so there is no need to nerf. His last hard rekka gets the same damage property has the light, what the heck. His super in the middle of screen is more of a miss than a hit, and yet a second shorter. His up kick is not the best anti air option because if you whiff be prepared for a 200 plus combo on you. Wait, I forgot, those suckers even reduced the height restriction. Darn, his ultras take a damage, for what reason puzzles me. Often times you are not going to get a clean ultra without a three hit combo before hand. Has a result damage scaling really affects the damage. They did him dirty and it ticks me off.
Im honestly surprised by this post. Most people whine about their own character getting nerfed without looking at their changes relative to other characters.
To be honest, it’s getting harder to be motivated to play AE for me. I didn’t really like any characters in Vanilla. Ibuki was almost there for me in Super. AE Yang was the first SF4 character I wanted to stick with. The j.mk nerf alone is a HUGE setback for me. I know people are going to be all “oh you don’t really like the character. you just use him because he’s good.” I think of a character as a set of tools to win a match and the tools I like to use are being taken away. This isn’t going to be the same Yang that I enjoyed using. Hopefully it won’t be too bad in the end.
Well him without a cross up is like playing in his 2I/3S, only his divekick would cross up and that’s nothing to really rely on because it’s only great when it was ambiguous and it was able ot be parried, but since his Divekick is getting a bit of a nerf, its best to stay grounded. Maybe his cross up isn’t insanely nerfed… that or they magically change it back…
I am starting to learn Yang, any pointers?
DON"T DO IT! Yang is like a ship that just hit an iceberg (nerf). Some players were luck enough to find some life boats (better characters for AE2012). Others like me are just waiting for death (getting bodied).
But seriously, learn to FADC. You will be doing it A LOT. That’s Yangs source of power for comboing into ultras and mixups. FADC Ultra 1, Ultra 2, and launch kick.
FADC second rekka into close MK… an essential tool that I still have trouble with. I may stop working on this after reading those changes…
fadc into his mk is easy as pie for me (I have only been playing yang for 2 days lol) I used the same technique I use to fadc with Gen and works great, I hatee fadc into u1 its too tight, I rather use U2 cos it seems to have plenty of ways to land
The only change people should be bitching about is the -2 extra on divekick.
I can fully undestand all the nerfs but that one just pushes it over the edge imo :[
I don’t think Dive Kick is THAT important to Yang. Loss of cross-up, and slowing of Stand Short will have the most impact.
Ye, between the dive nerf and the cross-up, it should be if/if imo, not and/and.
Stand short was kind of a given though.