WTS: PSX -> JAMMA/Supergun converters [in stock!]

[Elixir]

Ok, so I figured out the connector for an AV9000TB (which is the stick you use on the AV7000 supergun). It’s a 13-pin DIN. You can get male 13-pin DIN connectors from websites like this. Apparently, these are pretty commonly found and used in car audio systems.

So just when I thought everything was cool, I found another problem. I found this webpage containing various pinout information and they have the pinout for an AV9000TB. There’s 1 problem. I don’t see a pin for GROUND. I’m also questioning the accuracy of the pinouts they have after looking at their CPS2/3 kick harness pinout. The CPS2/3 kick harness has 34 pins, but their diagram shows 36 pins which I KNOW is wrong.

There HAS to be a ground pin somewhere, because it won’t work without it. Let’s get to the bottom of this shit.

Yeah I have a 9000TB myself. I have been doing some research too. Look at this:

http://www.setup-japan.com/sub/contorolbox.htm

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8417/playstationhn8.jpg

I’m fairly certain this is for using a 9000TB with a PS2. Maybe this helps, maybe it doesn’t. I’m not sure.

[Mayhem]

So just when I thought everything was cool, I found another problem. I found this japanese webpage containing various pinout information and they have the pinout for AV9000TB, but there’s 1 problem. I don’t see a pin for GROUND.

Most likely I’d say the round outer shell of the connector is the ground.

[Elixir]

Here’s some better pictures

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/551/32765276mh5.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2386/98261535qd3.jpg

Hope this helps.

[Elixir]

That looks the same, yeah. But I have no idea how to find out where the ground pin is. Is it something I can find for you?

[Elixir]

Just to let you know, I’ll buy 2.

[M_K_L]

I’m also questioning the accuracy of the pinouts they have after looking at their CPS2/3 kick harness pinout. The CPS2/3 kick harness has 34 pins, but their diagram shows 36 pins which I KNOW is wrong.

The neo geo pinout is also incorrect (left and right are reversed) and the Sigma AV7000 pinout has only 21 pins listed instead of 22 (pin 1 is actually N.C.) and the numbering of 16, 17, 18 is repeated for the last three pins. Good luck relying on that page for anything…

[Elixir]

Elixir - Yeah, only you (and others with an AV7000) can find out the pinout of the 9000TB cable. If you were ok with cutting the cable in half, I know all the wire colors for each pin including the ground pin and we can make 2 adapter cables from 1 original cable by wiring DSUB15s onto the exposed wires. If we were to make a set of custom cables ourselves without altering the existing cable that you have, we’re going to need to figure out the exact pinout of that 13pin DIN connector.

It’s my only one, unfortunately. If I do that, it’ll ruin it.

I’ll see what you can do. If all else fails, can’t you order one yourself?

[M_K_L]

laugh, how much for a converter PCB with PSX connector but no DB15 and no plastic case?

BTW I found a few pics of the inside of the Sigma stick:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9603/sigmastick1qn2.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8671/sigmastick2me1.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6698/sigmastick3di0.jpg

It turns out that the pinout on that page is correct and none of the 13 pins are ground which consequently can only be the connector/cable shield:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5260/sigmaav9000tbpg8.jpg

[System_1]

Howdy folks

Here is a picture from the 9000TB “manual”. The connector is indeed a 13-pin DIN, and yes, these are used in car audio (I even found a place that sells them with all 13 leads already soldered). Anyway, I’m not quite sure what to make out of the ground.

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5082/9000tbwq9.th.jpg
I have an extra cable which came w/ the AV7000 unit (DIN13->DIN13) which I can donate to be looked at. Would be nice to get it back as they’re pretty expensive considering what they are.

I would probably be interested in a converter. I have a Sigma PS cable, but would like a spare just in case. Do you make them for any other systems? Saturn, specifically?

[Elixir]

Sounds good. I think you should definitely start making these as people at shmups.com are interested in purchasing from you, too.

I can’t say where you could buy these, maybe GaijinPunch can help with that.

[System_1]

GaijinPunch - Do you have any links of that place that sells these 13pin DIN cables with pre-soldered pins?
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Yep! Good old Google delivers:
http://www.autotoys.com/x/product.php?productid=2059

If I’m not mistaken, the Sigma PS cable lets you use the AV9000TB stick on the PS2 console. My converters lets you use PS sticks/controllers on superguns and arcade systems.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I’m all backwards. I’m kind of in love with my 9000TB, and use it on my PS2, and Saturn/DC via the Sigma PS cable + adaptor for each system. It’s a bit ugly, and going through the PS cable means I get a turd button layout on the Saturn (the DC you’re doomed pretty much any way you go). The Sigma Saturn cables are LOOOONG gone. I did happen to luck out and get an 8000TB Saturn cable, and a shmups user was kind enough to make me a converter to use that on my 9000TB. So, I can live. If you ever look at going the other way, talk to me. I would indeed be interested.

[Esker]

laugh, how much for a converter PCB with PSX connector but no DB15 and no plastic case?

BTW I found a few pics of the inside of the Sigma stick:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9603/sigmastick1qn2.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8671/sigmastick2me1.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6698/sigmastick3di0.jpg

It turns out that the pinout on that page is correct and none of the 13 pins are ground which consequently can only be the connector/cable shield:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5260/sigmaav9000tbpg8.jpg

It’s also possible that there is no ground and it’s a common line system…

[M_K_L]

Do you have any links of that place that sells these 13pin DIN cables with pre-soldered pins?

They’re often on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/13-PIN-CABLE-AIWA-AUDIVOX-JENSEN-LEGACY-SANYO-PYRAMID_W0QQitemZ290242845706QQihZ019QQcategoryZ85808QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Cheaper than the one in Gaijinpunch’s link and it has two male ends. The question is whether it is fully wired. I’ve seen that the DIN-13 connector is also used for guitar equipment.

It’s also possible that there is no ground and it’s a common line system…

No, because the Sigma supergun is meant to play jamma boards and jamma boards use ground as the common line for controls. Also if you look at the pics I posted you can see that the stick microswitches are connected to the ground plane on the PCB (blue wires) and even the buttons are connected to ground through a switch that selects autofire mode or normal use (i.e. grounded).

[Elixir]

Just so long as you can make these, the price doesn’t bother me.

[Esker]

No, because the Sigma supergun is meant to play jamma boards and jamma boards use ground as the common line for controls. Also if you look at the pics I posted you can see that the stick microswitches are connected to the ground plane on the PCB (blue wires) and even the buttons are connected to ground through a switch that selects autofire mode or normal use (i.e. grounded).

I stand corrected.

[Elixir]

Awesome, thank you.

[dogface]

Laugh,

I love the designs. I’m getting two, so can I get one of each?

I’ll send you your money this week okay? Wow, they look great.

Thanks,
Vic

[opips2]

Laugh,

I’m not sure… My Atomiswave Consolized has Neogeo pinout controller ports or jamma and PS2 system has PS2 pinout. I’ve hss-0130 for dual joystick control box. I want control box port to both system.

I want to fun on Coin Doors is also working on Atomiswave but Is working on PS2??

[opips2]

Elixir - I went to one of the places that was thought to have those connectors, and they didn’t. I still have another place that I haven’t checked for these 13pin DIN connectors, so I’ll post my findings after I go through searching the other place as well.

Well, pardon me but I just half guessed what you posted. Tell me if this is correct.

You have a consolized Atomiswave that has controller ports with neogeo pinouts. You also have an HSS-0130 dual arcade stick for PS2. You’re curious if my converters will let you play with your HSS-0130 dual stick on both consolized Atomiswave and PS2.

If I understood correctly, then yes, my converters can do that.

Yes, right. I’ve HSS-0130 dual arcade stick but into empty no pcb. I worked 56 pinout jamma on Atomiswave. I want HSS-0130 dual stick on both consolized Atomiswave and PS2

[Elixir]

Elixir - I went to one of the places that was thought to have those connectors, and they didn’t. I still have another place that I haven’t checked for these 13pin DIN connectors, so I’ll post my findings after I go through searching the other place as well.

You can’t order them online?