Why the hate for Dead or Alive?

Exactly. Look at how many people just figured out about trying to punish whiffed moves LOL, it’s no surprise that they’ll be placing at the top when others don’t know how to do even the most basic of things.

ATNT?

All Tit’s No Tactics?

I lol’d.

Agreed to the fullest… Whats up yo. Its been a while.

All I hear is

“Doa doesn’t share the same mechanics as SF games therefore it sucks”

im tired of that its discrimination like racism.

I am also tired of all these 10 year old games getting played.

Super Turbo needs to be killed.

I can feel the bitterness in this post.

Welcome to SRK? :confused: Realistically, you’d have to kill ST in Japan first for us to even consider dropping it. And even then it won’t happen. Sucks, I know.

no, not DOA. Just DOA4. Well it doesn’t suck becuase it’s still fun to play at some level, gameplay just isn’t solid enough.

Some of it might be anger due to DOA not being at evo this year, although for some reason i would’ve expected this yr to bring in more DOA players than last year, but not enough to hit the player cap again.

Lol super turbo is the only street fighter i play now… Ironic. I Dont care if they dont have the same mechanics… I just dont like the game. I do however agree with you on the last state ment with 10+ year old games getting played though.

Why isn’t it solid enough? If it wasn’t solid enough I wouldn’t win most of the time.

I would be placing 1st, 5th, 9th, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 7th.

Tekken 5’s gameplay isn’t solid enough.

Even if this was the case, Tekken has a large player base that eclipses just about every other game’s player base.

So your point is moot regardless of what you say.

It doesn’t matter the fact remains.

DOA’s results are more consistent than Tekken’s.

BTW what game does this sound like?

Offense is king, moves are fast, throws are incredibly effective, and “turtling” is rarely a viable option. The game is brutal: one big mistake can lose you the entire round.

Hey sounds like DOA4 but guess what description that game is for?

Super Turbo

Anyway I am done arguing. Its like talking to the KKK about why they shouldn’t hate blacks.

How does that not matter? Keep being ignorant.

Tekken has more tournaments, Tekken has more players, Tekken has more players that know how to play, Tekken has more players that take Tekken seriously.

A 5 man tournament is gonna have hella more consistent numbers in comparison to a 100 man tournament.


Even with Smash everyone can say what they want about the game, but they PROVED their competitive worth by producing numbers.

Meanwhile your own words saying no one is at high level DOA etc.
Got inconsistent dramatically altering tier lists where players that you yourself say know how to play the game don’t even agree with you on your lists. And got posters constantly hollerin about ‘tiers don’t matter or mean anything.’

lol @ your failed attempt at a racism analogy. You cant be serious. Getting all salty and shit about ppl not liking DOA4 as much as other games in the series.

Keep beasting on the ppl you constantly say don’t know how to play the game. All handful of you guys at your major. Even side tournaments shit on your numbers for majors. Why you even on this site if you probably don’t even touch any of the other games except for DOA anyway?

You’re representing yourself terribly. You cant even come up with an argument as to why you think ST is no good, except for it being a 10+ year old game. Meanwhile others can come with arguments as to why they dont like DOA4 in comparison to other games in it’s own series.

Of course you’re done arguing, you had no argument to begin with.

We can all sit here and say whatever we want about any of these games we play. But more numbers breeds more competition no matter what the game is or our opinion on it.

I could careless who agrees with my tierlist. I will just beat it into them like I have been doing.

Oh trust me I play alot more other games beside doa matter of fact i rarely even get a chance to play doa because the people I stay with all play 2d fighters.

See here you are putting words in my mouth. I never said ST wasn’t good I am just saying its old as dirt. I also never said I didn’t like it.

What I am saying is that you all need to stop living in the past and adopt more new games.

Why?

Just one meta about fighting game tradition PL.

If you were gonna cook yourself a meal, would you use buckets and cauldrons because it’s unique? Or would you stick to pots and pans like everyone else has been doing for so many years?

Point being, people will judge games on fighting tradition for a reason…because it works. And there is no reason why DOA4 still can’t have the same ideologies behind it while still being traditionally stable.

Living in the past kills the future…

edit:

DOA series is like a know slut in the neigborhood. She (DOa4) might be banging, but everyone has tried her in the the past (The DOA series) most people don’t like it and even tho the “slut” has changed she’s always be viewed as trash to most of those who “played” her and moved on know this “slut” (DoA4) has stepped her game up, she aint sluttly as she use to be and looks good, but has a bad rep and a few traits left over from her old self(older series). AKA she’s freaky but not a slut… People see that and assume that she is the same old same, nothing has changed.

DOA is that… The slut of fighters, you get on have fun for a min and then go play a “real” fighting game.

DoA4 is the reformed slut, that still a “good time to be around” fun but not as “fun” as it used to be (aka its not as easy) but still not as deep as other fighters “girls” because of how fast you can get on and win. But once you get to into playing it (reformed slut) you realize its pretty deep, but in its own way. Infact it aint that bad…But you can’t tell your boys you feeling a slut, so what do you do? You bash it along with others or don’t defend it when its being talking down about.

with all that said, I’m in love with a reformed slut :wink:

If you didn’t care then what was the purpose of posting 5,000(exaggeration, please someone don’t run away with that) of them? You could’ve just kept the lists to yourself or something.

As for the rest of your post, I’ll just take your word for it.
If you liked or even respected ST, I figured that you wouldn’t have even made those specific comments about it, and you would’ve atleast brought up some points to be discussed instead of making a lowly stab at the age of the game.

But whatever right.

We shouldn’t just adopt a game just because it’s new, especially if in ppl’s opinion it’s not even as good as a previous game(or game in it’s series). The same goes when someone shouldnt drop a game just because it’s old. Vice versa.

BUT even with all that, even if a previous game is better, you still gotta go where the competition goes. And quite frankly, DOA4 doesn’t pull up numbers. I think that’s probably the big issue anyway, cause everyone just puts out opinions, but actual numbers is something that’s objective and is somewhat of a good factor in proving a games competitive worth.

???

pots and pans simplify cooking… what you just said there was the fighting game community is full of people who only know how to play one way

which is my fucking point, you all only play games your brain is conditioned to play, thats why tradition works, cause its fucking easier.

the thing about doa is not everyone in the world plays fighting games, people who dont can get into doa, people who do play fighting games (todays ones) are conditioned into thinking a certain way.

if doa4 came out straight after super turbo it would be more famous cause it basically shares the same philosophy, so you would understand the principles and would be more comfortable with it

fucking hell man, western philosophy has so many flaws, nobody even knows when or even how often they contridict themselves, fuck this thread.