Why play 3S?

Well, everyone want’s to think they are a hero. Just look at the game of basketball. EVERYONE picked up a ball thinking they were Michael Jordan. With time, they learned that they weren’t and they had to switch up their game and realize that only ONE play can do what most others can’t. Some have that natural talent while some have to earn it from the ground-up. I see 3S as that kind of game. And with a slightly simple learning curve, you’re definitely gonna make some fairly good strides right from the get-go.

I do agree that Daigo helped bring 3S into a more bigger light compared to what it was earlier in it’s life-span due to the game being hard to find in a general area. Plus, there was the console release assist. But, that is neither here nor there in this topic.

But yeah, I do agree. The players did have to discover their own limit’s later on and just try to avoid being Daigo because they know they can’t be. It’s almost impossible to emulate Daigo’s play-style because it’s his own. When you look at ST, what do you notice? “Oh shit, that’s Daigo’s Boxer” or “That’s Daigo’s Ryu”. You can tell the difference between his game and every other player.

Yeah, and when you look at it: Did it help the scene or did it hurt it? I would say it was the former. Regardless if they were sheep or not. I don’t think no one is looking to be Daigo or Justin in this game anymore. It’s all about the competitive nature of the game. No matter how much a lot of think the game is bullshit. Just look at the number of entries for 3S at FRX this year. Wasn’t it like, over 100 entries? That’s rediculous for a game that was just there a few years ago in the scene and just looked at as another SF game.

I mean, just look at the Guilty Gear players in America. For some of them, it’s their first competitive fighter. Would you think that they were being sheep because they saw some top player do something out of this world and win with it? Not at all. I would probably qualify as sheep for GG because I saw some hot shit with Johnny and I wanted to start playing. On top of that, I also want to help the scene by supporting it. Granted, it’s a scene that is in desperate need of help, but it’s a great game.

Don’t get me wrong, you endure what you can because it’s probably the one game in your area with a strong following and you do want to be a part of the crowd because maybe your favorite game is not getting the play you want it to get. For some of us, we’re just gonna up and turn to the game with the most comp. Just look at my situation: I live in Marvel and 3S land(i.e. NYC). Do I play either game? A little 3S here and there whenever I want to, but not competitively because I’m not a real big fan of the game and prefer ST over it. The scene in Chinatown is just about nearly dead for most games outside of Marvel and 3S. So, you’re kinda forced to have to play these games. Will you find them fun in the long run? Maybe. If not, you just stick around for the competitive nature.

A good example of this is Sanford: I’ve heard him say he hates CvS2 so many times, yet he plays the game. Why? Because it still has that comp. It has a wide variety of players in it’s community.

Well yeah, they do. But, I don’t think they exist in huge numbers. Remember, we’re talking about scrubs here. They want in on the fun. You’ll probably get 2 or 3 that are gonna actually gonna excel at the game and become a threat to the top players.

Just look at your favorite SNK games. Just imagine if you had something like that going for you(i.e. Daigo parry) and the next day a shitload of players decide to wanna learn SNK fighters? I think you wouldn’t complain there. Sometimes, sheep are good for the community if they’re playing for all the right reasons. Although that’s hard to define, but I’m sure you understand what I mean.

I kinda find it boring as well, but I play Urien. So, the game is kinda fun when playing someone other than Yun/Chun/Ken.

Yeah I totally agree with everything and believe me I aint saying sheep are bad…Im just saying at times people need to stand up for what they believe and that has gotten me where I am…doing things my way…

And trust me I know sheep aint bad because thats how NGBC is growing and things are growing now…I can take the formula of spreading high level vids to let people see and then they wanna emulate what they see because it looks cool…

So yes its a necessary thing practically…but I show people that they dont have to feel like all the time they have to submit to it because I didnt…but then again maybe I am one of the few that can…maybe not everyone can be like me you know…and be so dedicated to go to the lengths I’ve gone to get things out thereso I gotta look at it that way…

Because I have had people try to emulate me in NGBC etc based off match vids and I’m all for it if it will help bring people to the scene…

I just want people still to look at it like playing to support the scene…and hold onto whatever you enjoy doing…

I personally have been burnt by too many “fickle people” like one thing one day, when the fad goes out like something else the next or if their friends decide the game sucks they decide not to like it…I SAY FUCK THAT…thats the image of the person I DETEST…Grow a fucking backbone…stand up for what you believe…Why I admire Arturo with Arcana Heart, and Chibi, ZTB and others etc with Melty Blood etc, dont give in to the masses because someone shits on your game or “Ogs dont approve of it” FUCK THEM!!!

Fickle people that change with the current fad are NOT the type of people I want to trust…

But thats the Hidden Evil we must deal with with society I guess…some only do what they see the Leaders doing…we are their inspiration but at the same time we try to tell them THEY TOO CAN BE LIKE US…

And that is what I am telling you all…you dont have to be Daigo to earn respect…you can do it in other ways….

Shit, he just asked why he should play 3S. These kind of questions can be inquisitive, so many minds at work bringing up there ideas and opnions of 3S, if your looking for influence to play 3S or as to why to play it, you sure did hit the spot, but it’s up to him to figure out what to make of it.

And no matter what game you play, there will always be bullshit, best thing out there is just how you perceive it.

lukus, stop being fucking retarded about laugh.

you see him posting? no. do the same, and not mention his name. you’re getting fucking off-topic again. stick to “3s rules: yay or nay”.

everyone go play ST. <3

I’m baiting him Thai but in a light-hearted way lol. :wink:

j/k. I’m just having some fun…serious though.

Also Exarkun I agree with your post.

Arturo once said every game sucks…it’s how much of the shit per game we can deal with…personally…

Or something like that right Arturo?? lol. :rofl:

What the hell?
I love how either you play a game you like or you are automatically playing a game you don’t like just for the comp.

Yes, I stopped playing vf even though I loved the game because there was no comp. That doesn’t mean I am playing 3rd strike because I hate the game and only wnat to play with others.

What kind of retarded logic is that? You mean to tell me that it is either play a game you like even if it has no comp or that means you are a sheep playing games you hate because it has comp?

Guess what? I like 3rd strike. I don’t play it hating it to death but suffereing though it to “fit in.”

What nonsense.

I don’t play VF anymore because I have nobody to play with. That doesn’t mean all the other games I play I don’t like. I love the KOF series and I play that online when I can. Though I don’t know anybody offline who likes the game and thus it isn’t something I play a lot of. Just sometimes online when I find people to play it with.
Why sit around and only play KOF bymyself against the cpu all day? That isn’t in any way fun at all.
Tons of people are willing to pick up 3rd strike. I like 3rd strike as well and thus I play it. I don’t hate the game for it too, is also one of my favorite fighters and I was one of the few people who actually thought NG was awesome even though most hated for some reason. But unlike my OTHER favorite fighters that I either don’t play much of or haven’t played at all in years. 3rd strike has a ton of people playing it. Thus I play it more. A lot more. Tons more.

It is that simple. There is a pretty big tekken scene here where I live but I hate tekken. that game seems to have a bigger following than any of the games I am into. But I don’t like tekken. I haven’t for years and years and thus I don’t play it.

According to some of you that referenced my post I should be all over tekkens nuts trying to “fit in.”

Nothing to do with being a “sheep” or me trying to “fit in”

Just awesome narrowminded thinking all around here. I love it, wanting to play with comp = sheep trying to “fit in” and not playing games because you like it. What a joke.

If you guys like games that have zero comp and you can sit around playing the cpu all day. More power to you.
Me? I tried that on VF3 for dreamcast and hated and was bored to death.
Playing fighting games by yourself is missing half the point. Though I guess that I am one of the few who think that.

Personal reasons I picked 3S over other current 2-D competetive fighters:

1.) Easy to pickup-and-play. It’s Street Fighter. Watching mid-high level match play for GG, MvC2, and even CvS2 (sometimes) put me off. That might sound scrubby as fuck, but I don’t care. Watching 3S match vids made me feel as though, “hey, I know what/why they’re doing, maybe I could play that game too…”

2.) Local competition. For me, locally, 3S was the main 2D game played when I got into competitive fighting. ure, we have some GG and some MvC2 here and there, but 3S was the largest scene. Again, it might sound scrubby, but if I’m entering into the competitive 2D fighting scene, I’m not going to have my 1st game be (a.) difficult to learn, and (b.) a game that barely anyone around me plays.

And that doesn’t even crack the surface into why I prefer the 3S gameplay/engine over over game’s mechanics’.

The fact that anybody would bag on anything for being simple to pick up and learn shit is part of the reason why the fighting genre is so small these days. The entire boom was set off back in the day when fighting games were simple to pick up and play, and the fact that they’re so complex and inaccessible these days is a big reason why it’s hard to draw new people into the genre.

If it’s easy for a newcomer to pick up a character, learn some shit, and get into the competition, I do not see how that is anything but a positive.

Rhythm- I enjoy KOF so if I play it with people or not it doesnt matter…my thing is if you want it bad enough you will make it happen…I want that KOF/SNK comp so I go to great lengths to get it.

I am saying overall that there are many sheep out there Rhythm. You may be one of those that aint…I aint saying everyone is a sheep…I am stating a fact…many people out there are…not everyone duh…but a fuckload are and Daigo had quite a bit to do with it!!!

I am not gonna play a game HARDCORE personally just because others are playing it. Thats not what I am about. I am gonna play it because I like it period. Now will I play the game anyways? Yes of course I support the scene and will continue to do so…but I won’t play it seriously unless I like it. That is how I am.

Even if I have competition in the game if I dont like the game I have no motivation to get better in it period.

Its like if I were around a bunch of black females and lived around all of them (and I aint attracted to black women really) but I really like Hispanic and Asian women…I wouldnt sacrifice my love of Hispanic women because they aint around!!! :confused:

Hell no…now yeah would I talk to these women? Sure I’d befriend them and dabble with them etc and hang out but I aint gonna sell out and just start dating black women IF THAT AINT MY THING. No sir not how I work…I dont settle for less…

I get what I want…PERIOD.

Thats how I operate…I wish more people had that mentality…if you want a VF scene why not create one?? MK scene or whatever? Do something about it…

I dont know. I could argue that SF2 is harder game to play. And besides Arcades are not dead. They just changed the name and the games that are played. They are now called Net Caffes.

Agreed. People wanna play shit and be able to say

“Ha! You can’t do that cuz you’re a scrub.”
“Please, help me. Tell me how that works.”
“Nooooo, it’s too advanced for you and I’ll never help you! I have skill. I want to be the best around here in this scene. Fuck comp. I just want to win continuously.”

3s came and it’s like:

“Ha! You can’t do that cuz you’re a scrub.”
“Please, help me. Tell me how that works.”
“Nooooo, it’s too advanced for you and I’ll never-”
“Oh, I think I’m starting to get it…”
"What?(No! This can’t be!)
“Yea man. I’m gonna practice.”

Few days or week later:

“Hey it’s fun that we’re both decent. You’re better but I win sometimes too. Oh. Yes! One more W.”
“GASP! This game’s stupid anyway. It doesn’t really take skill. Only reason you beat me is because of your random parrying.”
“Oh. Well I used some stuff I learned by watching you.”
“Watching me? You can’t be serious. I don’t play this game like that. I was just…messing around.”
“Oh.”
“Let’s play some Accent Core or VF5. grins vindictively

Not to go off topic, but have you ever tried LOOKING FOR VF COMP? Or do you only exsist on this forum. Kind of hard to find VF comp in a forum called SHORYUKEN.COM.

There are actually A LOT of players in southern california, including San Diego. I know quite of few people in SDTEKKEN enjoy playing VF including Markman. I also know a smaller group of players like SweeptheLeg which also play and are attempting to get in contact with comp as well.

Then you have Plague and Riverside group that have gatherings every thursday. As well as LA Akira and Brisal who have gatherings in Sherman Oaks/Azusa every saturday or so. Hell Sextaro plays VF, and from what I heard he’s not far from San Diego area.

I mean wtf, I found comp for VF out here like 2 years ago and it wasn’t even hard. I question your “love” for VF if you don’t even know about all these things that are going around you. Stop posting here and go to www.virtuafighter.com there is a socal thread and even an SD thread (though it’s a while back, but I know markman checks now and then).

On Topic: The point of fighitng games is competition, and 3S has that currently in the spades. You will have a whole lot more fun playing 3S at an arcade or gathering with a bunch of other fanatics then would playing KOF98 by yourself at home, irregardless of weither Kof98 is better than 3S.

by who’s authority gave you the right to state a fact?

what you’ve stated is an overbearing opinion.

Play both? Play what you like. End of story.

Yes, I went by this site and only this site all this time and all these years. Ya that is it exactly. :rolleyes:

I spent years never knowing about any of the websites for fighting game communities. Thus I never knew where to look for any of the games I like to play. Only could play people I knew and nobody I knew liked virtual fighter. I never saw vf3 being played at any of the arcades near me. That was the only way I got around to finding “comp” for games. Networking though people only in real life though friends/game centers/arcades. I never knew srk or any of the sites you mentioned were even around.

This site was the first site for players who play fighitng games I ever found and that was just a few short months ago and I am still finding other sites. It isn’t all that possible to know of all these groups when you are just getting around to even finding online communties for fighting game fans in the first place. The only reason I found this place was due to a link on gotfrags dpad section.

Not everybody knows of all these sites since their inception and had to find comp the old fashion grunt way. So you can take your funky attitude and kiss my black ass. Thanks.

I’m not talking about how hard it is to play on average. I’m talking about how easy it is to get into, learn the basics, and get into competitive shape. Compared to games like A3 or CvS2, both of which came out during the era in which the genre is suffering, SF II is very beginner-friendly.

I love 3S. But why do dudes down here in South Texas talk about quote: “3S is good but it’s pretty much dead or going to die soon.” I don’t listen to people when I think they are full of shit. But my ears were open so this bothered me. Is the scene starting to die down or is it growing?

On a side note, I play 3S because I think it’s just damn good fighter, and the comp for it is nice.

^^^ wow what in tha fuk happened to this thread LAWL :wgrin:

the real question is “Why not play 3s?”

Because you don’t have a quarter.