I just youtubed a match of Kindevu defeating Ino at SBO 2. Damn, you beat a guy like that with S groove?! That’s really impressive. Ironically, Kindevu was dominated by Nuki’s Akuma right afterwards 
Clearly.
And do you really think tap - throw/mixup is “your technique”?
Keep it coming Bodler, every couple of days i log onto SRK just to have a laugh at this thread.
I can’ t believe this thread is still going on. Just look at it logically. If you switch to a throw, what happens? A) it connects, B) it gets teched, C) it gets reversed.
In situation A, which is the best possible scenario, you just gave up ground. You have to get back in again and start all over. In the end, you’re going to be doing the same thing that Nuki does in the first place - running c.jabs/shorts. Obviously, situations B and C get you fucked, and for the character with the lowest life in the game, that’s not good. Not to mention that you just reset their stun meter.
Now look at what a c.jab or c.short will get you. If you do those instead of a throw, what happens? A) it connects, B) it gets blocked, C) it gets reversed.
Let’s look at situation B first. It gets blocked. Oh well. Do it again.
How about situation C? Oh wow, it’s the same consequence as going for a throw. The difference is (and it’s a huge difference) is that the c.jabs and c.shorts are faster and harder to reverse.
Now the best case scenario - a c.jab or c.short connects. You can hit confirm that into a couple of more. You can combo a sweep off that. You can combo a DP off that. The DP leads to more mixups, or you just go back to rushing down.
The best possible scenario for a connected throw does 1700 damage for a punch throw and 2000 damage for a kick throw. It resets the stun meter and doesn’t set up anything outside of the corner.
The best possible scenario for a connected c.jab leads to over 3000 damage (c.jab x2, c.roundhouse, short hurricane, fierce dp is what I came up with, for 3400 damage, but I’m not an Akuma player so I dunno what’s the best possible damage). Obviously this means over 30 stun. It sets up air fireball mixups for more potential damage.
I forget. WHY should you go for a throw again?:rolleyes:
bodler: you’re acting like he never throws with akuma.
have you seen this video?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xnlP_sTTXs
it’s nuki vs. ricky ortiz. and ricky ortiz is EASILY top 3 cvs2 player in the U.S. this was taken last year.
he plays perfectly fine with akuma. i dunno what you want him to do. throw more?
you say nuki doesn’t play intelligently. have you ever seen the last samurai? the one japanese dude goes up to tom cruise and is like…“TOO MANY MIND, TOO MANY MIND, NO MIND”. shit nigg, that’s how nuki is playing…he’s playing smart, he just doesn’t play with a brain. wait, shit, ok, he plays with a brain but not with a heart? damnit, i just done lost myself. ok, what i’m trying to get at is, nuki does not think a LOT about what he wants to do, he just does it and follows through with it. the thing most players get caught up in is thinking twice about what they wanna do, and by that time, sometimes it’s too late.
nuki is definitely a smart player. honestly, it just seems to me that you’re not really understanding why he ISN’T throwing. there’s a LOT of reasons why he isn’t. if he doesn’t get the throw, he just lost quite a bit of momentum, and that is crucial to akuma’s game. another reason why he might not wanna throw is because he prolly just doesn’t feel that he has that opportunity. it’s a lot harder than you think, he just isn’t close enough. if you watch the video above, in the 2nd match, he DOES bust out a throw, but he was in good range too. during rushdown, with every jab, every attack, he’s getting pushed away, so the ONLY chance he’d get to throw is after his first attack, but for the MOST part, good players watch for that shit.
just remember, too many mind…no mind.
“have you ever seen the last samurai? the one japanese dude goes up to tom cruise and is like…“TOO MANY MIND, TOO MANY MIND, NO MIND”. shit nigg, that’s how nuki is playing…he’s playing smart, he just doesn’t play with a brain. wait, shit, ok, he plays with a brain but not with a heart? damnit, i just done lost myself.”
no offense, but for whatever reason, that post is one of the funniest things i think i’ve ever read on srk. when my friends are playing, i’m just yelling that shit out from now on.
In a nutshell. :tup:
Can you combo a c.roundhouse into a short hurricane? I thought that couldn’t be done since the c.roundhouse knocks down.
did u see him do anything technical with him akuma on this match?
im not talking about having to think all the time, their are certain techniques that you aquire by yourself when you play alot…this is why evrybody plays diffrent ( most of ). its not about tehinking…its about technique, the more you play, the more you see that the things u can do in cvs2 are not that much, even thos evry attack is diffrent the concept is the same, u do either this or this or that or that. and the reason i talked like this about nuki is because he only uses one concept ( talking offensevly that is )
and this one concept that he used all the time dint work againt vega ( wich usualy dont )
Damn I wanna see that match.
Akuma can juggle, he can hit 2 times in the air
Cool. I can get the cr.roundhouse to short hurricane now, but I can’t seem to connect the fierce DP afterwards? Is the timing on that really strict or something? (Sorry for going totally off topic here 
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bodler: i think after you play a couple of really good cvs2 players for a while, you’ll change your entire mindset.
whatever nuki is doing is winning. accept that.
you guys can tell me i dont play good players all you want…it doesnt matter cos i know i play good players all the time…and sum tournament level shit.
it seems you just dint understand my last post, this one thing that nuki does with his akuma, wont work againts a good vega, now if he knew how to take on other offensive strategies, maybe trying to play a lil more defensivly in this case since this match was at his disfavor, he would have a better chance.
- HE PLAYED THIS VEGA LIKE IT WAS ONE OF HIS USUAL AKUMAS NUKI VS A NON BLANKA/VEGA/CAMMY/sakura FIGHT * his play style will work only on the type of characters beginners and mid level players chose.
So that’s why Nuki more or less wipes the floor with Ricky Ortiz?
Like I said, little boy, go back to your sandbox. This is grown-up time, okay?
Bodler is a robot, a joker, coming from pluto, a big fake!!!
Your don’t even understand what others tried so hard to explain, you just keep repeating, “yes, but if he tick/throw then…” x 3221564 times.
Normal human would understand! You can’t be serious!
If you are,
I wish that at next evo, there will be a video like the one mentionned above, where we can see spectators. I hope to see you watching nuki play, then explaining him on camera how he should improve his game! And finally face him in a money match!
With dozen people laughing so much that they would shit in their pants!
This moment will become far more known than Evo moment #37! That’s for sure!
its ok man…one day you will understand when you get to the next level, i bet you guys dint even try to understand what i ment in my last post and just try to demenish me. i wont even answer back to you if your not even argumentation agaist my post but just degrading me, like your hurting ym feelings over a computer…lol
its ok man…one day you will understand when you get to the next level, i bet you dint even try to understand what everyone ment in their posts…
i did understand…and unlike most of yall i answerd back on what you said, but most of you dont even answer back to my post, in general all u do is call me a dumbass scrub…lol?
The only problem is that you keep saying the same basic things over and over in each of your replies…
The rushdown seemed to work pretty good against Ricky Ortiz’s vega in that vid…