Why nuki has problems

sure. if there’s one thing you can count on, it’s that he’s never played any vega’s or blanka’s before. every match he’s played i’m sure has been in his favor.

Hello. I am a scrub who is new to this game, and I use N (sometimes K) Akuma. I have never heard of Nuki before I saw this thread, so I took your advice and “youtubed his ass.” I watched about a dozen matches. Of that dozen, Nuki’s Akuma came out on top against his opponent’s first character in every match except like 3. Of those 3 opponents, one of them fronted a R2 A-Blanka who RC’d like crazy, and Nuki still managed to get like 80% of his health down. Another was against Ricky’s A-Sakura who started the round with full meter. My point is, even if this guy doesn’t play the way you think he should, what he does obviously works for him. It seems to me like he has won his share of matches and has earned the right to be treated with more respect than you are showing him. Even though you claim you never said he sucks, it sounds very condescending when you say he “plays without intelligence.” Obviously he is intelligent enough to play competitively against the top players in the world.

Ok this has gotten way out of hand…

Nuki is a top player in CVS2, his style is crazy rush down, thats how he pressures you. Textbook wise, you shouldn’t lose to nuki if youre a good player and if hes going crazy, but obviously in reality this fool makes you panic. and for the fact hes not intelligent, hes hella smart. Just cuz he plays crazy, doesn’t mean hes not smart. You can NOT judge a player just by videos, everyone should know this shit by now. look at buktooth, fool rolls all day, you say “why not just throw him?”, ITS HELLA HARD.

Bodler - I dont want you to respond to this, just read it and think about it. Playing vs someone is WAY WAY different than just watching videos. Things arent how they seem like…I hope you soon realize this in the near future.

Bodler , I never heard of you and you never heard of me, wanna money match me 4 out of 7 for 100$ ??? I’m from Canada so I probably suck, right ??? I’ll go at my first majors in the states soon NEC and ECC… if you can catch me once with your marvelous mixup aka sick MINDGAME of yours I’ll throw in 50$ more if you win !!! DEAL or NO DEAL ???

Let me relay you the advice that Nuki gave Tokido prior to his winning Evolution a few years back - “Don’t do a move because you think it will be good if it hits. Do a move because you think it WILL hit.” Your “mixups” would be good if they hit. WILL they hit? That’s questionable. Why gamble for something that isn’t even likely, when what you are currently doing is very effective? It makes zero sense whatsoever.

No, he would not, little boy. Now run along and play in your sandbox.

It’s an interesting thread, at least.

If only Nuki could come on this thread and defend himself…

haha…scrub :rofl:

neg reps

i never said nuki doesnt win or hes not good, he is good and he does win alot. im just saying…his gameplay is linear, he does the same thing over and over, and if your smart and obersve the way he plays, you can easily counter him, one exemple is when he always do this small jump high kick at you when he is done trowing about 2 blocked low kicks. and yall still dont understand, yes he has SKILL!!! but no technique, none at all, there is some much opurtunitys for him where he couldve faked and done some damage where he instead chooses to keep hitting. and for that guy who wants to challenge me with that 50 dollars…WTF LOOOOOOOOOOOLLOLOOLOLOLOL…stupid fuck

You can go away now, little boy.

so you could beat nuki then? since he’s so linear and predictable, i’m sure you’d win for free. :rolleyes:

this is the cleanest, most logical post in this entire thread. a player who is completely new went, saw what was good, and gave a good, objective opinion with his limited understanding of the game by focusing on what matters: who wins.

bodler, you have “scrub video-watching” syndrome. i thought the same too, i saw some things that bas did in videos and i wanted to try a theory out when i played him for money. the problem is that every time i “spotted” what i wanted to happen, i was already getting hit by it. it’s the same for every good player, the way they do things may look so incredibly easy to do, yet it’s incredibly hard to do or counter in practice. if you were able to consistently counter what nuki does, hell, if ANY of us were able to consistently counter what nuki does, we’d be fucking winning tournaments. but we’re all here getting smashed by this fool with his “unintelligent playstyle.” you’re really just missing the real point in the end.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34757

i’m done. if you don’t understand the point we’re making and why you’re so off the mark by this point, then nothing and no one can help you.

good post. but i think you guys are complicating stuff for nothing. first of all, im not starting this just to say that im better then this and better then that. im just saying what i think due to my own experience. what im saying IS…that when i watch nuki playing his akuma on videos, is when i see him trowing all his pokes, i see alot of openings, as instead of trowing the second or third poke, he couldve have dashed to the oponent and grab * after first or second poke * and im 90 percent sure it will work because his oponents wont have time to realise that hes changing tactics because they are used to having their asses poked by his akuma so they will just be here down blocking. and then , thats kinda when you get the oponent, because getting faked gets you off balance, because i know cos ive been faked alot and it messes you up. So i say he has no technique because nuki is one demensional, he hits a combos you and stuff, but if he putted a little bit of fake in it, now he will add an other dimension to his game, i just hope there was a better way i could explain…but i cant. When i dee Daigo play, his game is really difrent and he keeps you guessing, nuki doesnt keep you guessing, he keeps you blocking, its diffrent. please reply with some good stuff.

you literally provide nothing but maybe’s and i’m 90 percent sure it would work. a random grab here and there will obviously work somewhere, sometime, but you are still beyond wrong. all i’m gonna say is (no offense rick you ultra power bottom) if rick stavley is beating you, you shouldn’t be posting opinions on anything, because he’s just an ok cvs2 player at best, so that would make you a scrub. 1st rule of srk is scrub opinions are worth dick. they get dominated and then you hear the usual cry of “it’s my opinion and it’s valid and blah blah blah.” this is not a question of opinion though. i think most people will agree that nuki has taken n akuma as far as he can go, or at least as far as is capable right now, and for you to talk shit is kind of retarded.

show me one n akuma player that wins anything using your patient akuma strat. he doesn’t exist. you’d have to go to narnia to find that guy because he’s not here in this dimension. the only akumas that are even remotely successful are the ones that overwhelm their opponent and basically steal nuki’s tactics.

rick beats this guy and he is yapping about random garbage ?? fuck outta hurr scrub…never EVER post again :tdown:
like randomsuper said, no offense but if rick stalvey is rushing you down then you shouldnt even be playing this game.

very well said.

He would be worse, way worse. A world champion or japanese champion in many games plays in a level that you cant even understand. Every single thing you think is wrong with nuki is actually a great play. He is probably even more consistent than Daigo overall, and beat Daigo to get the first japanese CvS nationals, for CvS1 I guess. Daigo cant play Akuma as well as Nuki. Probably nobody can. And, according to you, Nuki is being dumb. Maybe you are the first person ever to discover that he can be easily counterable somehow. Now you can get first at Evo by easily countering BAS, Ricky and all of them with your cool video tactics.

Every single thing you think he should do is actually a bad play. Thats why he wins so many tournaments and you dont. Other players mix up, and the majority of them lose to Nuki. Obviously by doing your kind of mixup Nuki would be trading good play for questionable play.

Please please please read this:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34757

I beg you to read it. All the arguments youve been looking for are explained very clearly in there.

Listen! I made a great discovery!
There is something i noticed watching videos! I think nuki daigo bas and everyone could play much better because when they throw a poke the opponent could have time to level 3 super them! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

I think nuki has mastered his akuma, i guess he knows about dash throw godly strats (n groove no dash though) for a long time, and if he thought it’s worth it with akuma, he would use it more.
Dash throw; poke/throw remain risky (especially with low life akuma) and i guess high level players are aware about that, and prepared to punish accordingly any attempt^^ I usually see more tech throw than throws in videos.
And demon setups are way better than normal throw setups, but of course it requires no intelligence in play… Many people can do demon consistently so why so few can land it???
They have technique too! It should be enough :smiley:

Nuki isn’t just his akuma by the way, and he plays chun with “intelligence” in my opinon…

Let’s email him about this.

well…not evrybody plays the same. i know what im talking about and i have changed to this tactice against good players not only Rick and i win way way more then i already did then before. Maybe because you people have not yet reached the level of expertise you need to be on my level or you just have a diffrent view on how to be the best at cvs2. for me its not able beeing able to do this or that, its about doing the Right thing at the Right time. maybe by playing against good oponents or with time some of you will understand. Its about beeing able to guess what the oponent is thinking due to what you have done or not done yet…but who cares…im a scrub right? ( or whatever the fuck this means ). If you play this way…it doesnt matter who you choose, even if you lose you will still do good, because these tactics are the same with all characters exept those who really cant do shit maybe like chang. This is where you add up an other dimension to your game, instead of beeing one dimensional. maybe you guys should study basic SF3 third strike fakes…maybe you guys will learn, and it works on alot of other games not only cvs2, as it works also for me in SVC chaos. but…you guys have not reached this level yet…all you guys think of is combo combo hit hit hit hit poke poke poke poke!!!

it’s official. you suck.