Why not make Super the tournament Standard?

Nah fuck dat. Might as well crack out the game that was given to the community. If we gotta get blown up by Japanese Yun/Yang/Fei oh well shit learned for next year. Maybe a year from now if Yun/Yang/Fei still blow the game up then yeah sure. By that time I wont be playing this shit any way.

In the end it’s still SFIV no matter how you dice it so…whatever.

Anyone who thinks the twins is broken is a typical SFIV playing 12 year old that has never actually played fighting games competitively. Their only problem is that they’re at the level of power that all the characters should be at. Which is why SFIV has been stupid from the beginning. Characters purposely made to be ass in a boring engine. Please dont play 3S and scrub that shit up because Yun will break your balls in that. Phoenix is more stupid than SFIV Yun and Yang and even she has yet to be proven to be broken.

Capcom needs to get over themselves and stop purposely shitting on characters just to shit on them and then randomly make characters that are actually good.

Let MVC3 be the game that gets the Japanese community to do console tournaments. No need to shake the earth when MVC3 can already take care of what half of what you’re looking for.

you know what should be the tournament standard?

3s

if there is anything the scene needs now its more chun to go with that yun

seriously though this thread is straight scrub juice. srk on some smashboards shit

wow people need to stop being bitches and get with the program

I SHALL GRIND THIS THREAD BENEATH MY HEAL!!!

Reserving judgement until after EVO. If Top 5 is all the same character, ban that character.
There you go, character variety supporters.
Otherwise… w/e SFxT will be out by the time folks decide to go back to Super.

Azrael’s opinion is cool, he’s had more hours with it in Japan so I’ll be watching this space to see if everyone else sees stuff worth changing.

seriously ?? this game is brand new. stop complaining and find out better strats to fight against yun and yang. shit… let the damn game be . stop wishing for nerfs your not going to get. if you dont like it dont play it… i personally dont take the game seriously at all and neither should anyone i mean this is street fighter 4 we are talking about…

Because AE is more fun than Super.

First off, SF4 is the best game in the series. If we go back to anything I would vote for that. Secondly if Capcom actually cared about improving the game instead of worrying about costumes and other useless DLC we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The unfortunate part is this series is geared more towards a casual fanbase rather than a competitive, which probably explains the decline in quality. From a competitive standpoint I can agree that a better version should be the tourney standard. The problem is we always progress forward with the newest version regardless of how inferior it is. (ie:HDR over ST) Plus going back would cause some of the casual fanbase to lose interest in the competitive scene.

No we don’t. Next to one would play HDR if Capcom released an arcade perfect port of ST tomorrow on Live/PSN.
The fact that ST continues to have tournaments after HDR has long been forgotten speaks a lot about the possibility of going back.
With 3SO success, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be a possiblity for Capcom to make some more fight money.

Also with the ST example, the ancient OGs still prefer Hyper Fighting. It’s what the player base enjoys ultimately. And yeah, Super SF2- who even thinks of that, ever?

But we are playing HDR in majors right now even though we could be playing classic in the HDR engine. We can play classic, but we don’t. If you “rereleased” classic as arcade perfect it would in fact be the “newest” version even though it is the classic ST.

Part of the reason the fighting game community keeps going with the newest releases despite quality has much to do with accessibility.

This. Fuck charge characters and turtles …id rather see Yun beasting any day than fucking Guile throwing sonic booms all day from the back of the screen or Honda sitting at the back of the screen just staring at you and randomly headbutting the moment your guard is down .

AH yes the good old days of 5 japanese players in top 8 will soon return. My fav was the 5 Chuns 3 Yun 3s top 8!

i stopped reading there

You kinda have to worry about what the japanese are doing because some of those guys come over here to play in the tourey’s like EVO, there are 4 new characters and plus when the game has been out for a while things will get fleshed out, things will be found out and maybe yuns and Yangs will get will get blown up by some random ass character that someone took to the lab on those bitch associated twins lol. :slight_smile:

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SFIV = CE (Good)
SSFIV = HF (Better)
AE = SSF2 (What)
?? = SSF2T (Please?)

SFIV = CE
SFIV console = HF
SSFIV = SSF2
AE = SSF2T.

Look it’s even got an old sagat replacement and everything.

SSFIV is much, much better than SSF2 comparitively speaking. SSF2 is probably the worst version of SF2. At least WW was groundbreaking. SSF2 was a step backwards, kinda like AE.

That said, I do still enjoy the game. I just don’t get some of the balance decisions.

I suppose if you include console SFIV this would be more accurate:

Arcade SFIV = WW
Console SFIV = CE
SSFIV = HF (best balance)
AE = SSF2

My sides hurt from laughing so hard.

I think AE is pretty hype, and I’m not looking forward to SFxT because Dan is dead (LIES!) Mind you, I’ll still get it anyway and stuff cuz it’ll be the new shit and give me all the crap you want about Dan being a waste of a character slot in IV and yadda yadda… However, I think this has been said before, but didn’t everyone think Dudley and Fuerte and a few other characters were god tier or whatever when they were first introduced to IV? What happened then?

Keep in mind that [any game with a considerable amount of depth] is a living thing; an ever evolving organism that constantly changes as new things get discovered. Remember when Starcraft came out? Remember Zergling rush? Remember strategies that were still being discovered FIVE YEARS into the games life cycle in an age where patches and hot fixes were unheard of?

Whew. Alright I’m done.

There seems to be some kind of bizarre idea in this thread that what makes a game fun and competetive is balance, which is complete nonsense, some of the best games of the era like MvC2 and 3s have completely arse balance, but that doesn’t take away from what makes the game fun to play.

Good to see you people gave AE a whole 2 days of consideration to determine that the nearly identical game is somehow not fun. You managed to figure out all the new tricks and possible combos for all 39 characters and determined its worse than Super. Even the “SF4 was the best version” whiners are encouraged by this thread because Yun is broken and SF4 Sagat was the pinnacle of balance.

The same cast of players that dominate the U.S scene will continue to dominate with the same characters. Watch the tournaments this weekend and you will see this Yun whine is over the top. Adapt already the changes amount to one extra mix up for some characters and better combo options for the lower tiers.

Absolutely retarded logic.

Also all this complaining after 2 days shows how fucking scrubby all of you are.
Capcom catering to all the kids ruined the scene.

Thank god 3S is coming back. Hopefully it’ll weed out the retards.