It’s a mtter of opinion no matter how you look at it.
But no, I wouldn’t say that at all.
Basically, CvS2 is a hardcore player’s SF that does not translate well AT ALL to the casual audience. And the casual audience is becoming more and more important these days, as Evo is aiming to achieve the feel of a sporting event.
Sorry to say this, but if the masses are 3s kiddies, then so be it. It’s the nature of capitalism - like with everything else, you need to accept the good and the bad…
-Josh
Not ST.
I agree with you, but I’m just going to mention the classic exception of o. Sagat vs. o. Sagat before anyone else gets to it.
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That’s AE, not ST. 
SRK is thinking :arazz: about nurfing CVS2 from EVO.
If you think the game is boring play checkers.
Play low tiers… Or who ever you want to play.
Besides Super Turbo… what else is Streetfighter?
Japanese dont Even play MVC2. They still play Cvs2.
It a street fighter classic… just like ST, 3S, Marvel 2.
It all about comp and who’s planing what game.
CVS2 is the only thing In Life that I am good at… Its Just A Habit. Whats your habit Guy’s.:lol:
Japanese barely play CvS2. When I went to a-cho in May the machines were empty most of the time, save for at one point when a couple of guys were playing.
3s was pretty empty too, for that matter.
Marvel Looks Cool like shit.
It’s like Command and conquer and Rockem sockem robots colliding with technology.
3s looks Cool / hype sound track.
ST Music is epic. Hadoken! Classic game.
CVS2 is good. A groove And the groove/ character selection is crazy. Lots of team planing.:annoy:
Cats dont play at A-cho all the time…
That’s not the only arcade in Japan:wgrin:
Japan is the Technology And gaming universe. They play everthing.
All types of different games.
Gilty Gear is sex. But I dont fuck with it.
Did anyone else read the Bonds analogy and think “Sagat is on the juice!”
Japanese gamers still hold tournaments for shit like Fighter’s History Dynamite and Ninja Combat.
I’ve noticed at Evo World that there wasn’t much in the way of variety at the byoc and I think that reflects on the nature of American fighting gamers. CvS seems awful because no one’s willing to play anything else other than marvel or 3s when there’s literally a decade and a half of a back fighting game history library to play. It’s not just CvS2 that’s not gettin’ the proper love. I mean, for God’s sake, a modern version of Power Instinct came out in like, 2004(not to mention the ps2 port a year or so later)>
amen:wink:
and if you guys cheked the latest version of mame you would see that tons of fighters have been made
honorable mention of Martial Masters and Asura Blade and Asura Buster:wink:
LOL. I think it’s better to just forget the modern version of Power Instinct.
In any event…it’s tough to play games that don’t have scenes just because there’s almost no chance you’ll get the mass of tourney players into them. Especially if it’s an old fighting game…it’s pretty much impossible. Dark Geese is a pretty good example of someone trying to get people to seriously play more obscure fighting games and it’s real hit or miss. I mean…there’s specific reasons why everyone plays what they like to play. It’s just the game that they know they can always find comp for or it’s just the game that really matters to them. Some people just don’t find interest in playing a bunch of different games. Especially when there’s so many other non fighting games out there to play.
Games like Fighter’s History Dynamite and Ninja Combat never really got a ton of exposure in the US. Fighter’s History came out when SF2 was already a pretty established game and got knocked because it seemed too much like a SF clone. Nobody knows what Ninja Combat is so yeah. Same thing with the majority of other fighting games on MAME…they just never got exposure so getting people to seriously play those games is going to be tough. US grew up on SF and Capcom fighting games in the US are almost as American as cheese. Those are just the games that people recognize and it’s tough to get people to get into anything else when they’re already busy with the games they have more of a passion for.
There just really isn’t too much of a reason for the US to play much outside of the regular Evo games just because there’s no scene to really give them a reason to. The Japanese aren’t necessarily shoving it down our throats that we gotta beat them in those games. The only real chance for any of those more obscure MAME games to garner a scene is through online play. That’s the only way people are going to get real exposure to competitive gaming in those games. There’s not droves of tourney players offline that are looking for the next MAME game to play. You have to just simply like the games for what they are to even play them more than a couple times and have people that are also as serious about the games.
C’mon, what’s so bad about Matrimelee? 
The reason you play those games is that they’re FUN. :arazz: Competitive play is fun in it’s own right, but ever happend to sitting aroudn with some beers and some shitty game you got off ebay for 10 bucks?
Heh…my friend always threatened to buy me some shitty game for my bday and I always told him I would throw it in the fire first. I definitely wasn’t going to be playing that shitty game by myself. :lol:
What’s so bad about Matrimelee is that it’s bad. I don’t like the way it looks…don’t like the music…even played a few times and didn’t even like the way it played. My bro randomly likes the game actually but watching him play it for me was like watching a bad episode of some old 80’s show. If a game doesn’t look or feel interesting to me…forget it. Not every fighting game clicks for me. Like…I really like Neowave even though no one else plays it but there are just fighting games that I just don’t work with and won’t ever care to.
For me…the competitiveness of a fighting game is what makes it fun for me. It’s the reason why I don’t play too many other types of games these days. I just like the way the fighting game scene is and how people group together and hang out for big tourney events. There’s just nothing else like it IMO. Playing a random fighting game with your friends is good fun and all but I just get the most enjoyment out of playing a competitive fighter in a scene that a lot of people click with. Especially if I already really like the game. It’s just fun for me. Playing a game just for the sake of playing it isn’t very fun for me anymore. I’ll do it if someone else wants to play whatever game but I know what I’d rather be doing and would rather spend more time on.
Agreed 100%. I don’t know how this relates to the topic, but playing obscure fighting games should really only be about passion for the game itself. There are tons of fighting games out there, and I’m sure there are many with a potential for deep gameplay, but most people don’t have time to be competent in more than 2 games. I think when you split your time between 20 games, and never get any good at any of them, it kind of defeats the purpose of playing fighting games, cause you never get to experience the deep strategy which makes them fun.
The big question is, why are you going to a-cho when Ibaraki VIP has 3 machines with constant competition? On my business trips there, I always faced great comp, esp. Rai and Uma (although Uma has been out of action recently, from what I hear).
To the OP: come to the CvS2 tourneys at FFA.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I find CvS2 a lot of fun to watch, as long as it’s played well (or in the rare event that it’s a hilariously one-sided ass rape, as with SNAAAKE and LegendsOfLose). I suppose it gets a little arduous to watch someone fight his way out of the loser’s bracket in the finals of a DE tourney, but beyond that, I don’t think it takes an extraordinary amount of patience to enjoy.