Why do DP's (uppercuts) beat block strings when the frame data suggests otherwise?

SFGuy2016 · November 7, 2016, 8:36am

Here’s an example,

Cammy’s hk DP has a 6 frame start up. Karin’s cr. mp is +2 on block and her mp has a 5 frame start.

That means there’s a 3 frame window between cr. mp, mp, but Cammy’s 6 frame DP can interrupt it. Why is that?

How do the mechanics regarding DP’s interrupting normals work if frame data is not the way do doing it? When is this relevant? When is it not relevant?

Sleazoid · November 7, 2016, 8:43am

https://www.primagames.com/games/street-fighter-v/tips/street-fighter-5-how-use-frame-data

Invincibility Frames

There are a number of special moves in Street Fighter 5 that have invincibility frames. This means that the attack is invincible for a short period of time. For example, Ryu’s EX Shoryuken has a large amount of invincibility frames, which means it will go through almost anything as soon as you use it. If you’re in a jam and need an escape option against a relentless opponent, an EX Shoryuken is a good answer. Keep in mind, if the attack misses Ryu is in trouble, but with proper timing it will go right through any of your opponent’s attacks.

Some attacks are only partially invincible. A special move may be invincible to throws, meaning that all throws will go right through the attack. Other special moves may be upper body invincible, meaning they would well as anti-air attacks. Make sure to look at any notes related to invincibility so you know how best to use these attacks.

There’s a lot more detail we can get into about frame data, but hopefully this gives you a quick look at how you can use frame data to improve your gameplay. You can find more information in the official guide, or if you’re still looking for beginner strategies you can check out our look at mistakes new players make!

Quark · November 8, 2016, 9:51am

Obnoxiously, most of the frame data I find online doesn’t list invincibility frames. the Prima Guide is the only source that I know does and it’s a pain to use.

Los · November 8, 2016, 1:03pm

http://toolassisted.github.io/OKI/#URN/60/11/11/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/1,0,0,0,/

Look at the notes on the right column

Quark · November 8, 2016, 1:15pm

Lol I’ve been using toolassisted’s site but never noticed the notes section… I am truly a braindead scrub. Thanks for the tip