Why can't players online give new people like me a break?

uh!? So you are what they called a…Scrub!?

What character(s) have you been playing OP?

the only way to do “alright to good” on a first month of a Fighting Game is if you have years of previous fighting game experience ( against other strong players) and already have sharpened fundamental skills that you can apply to SF4.

Just by playing 1 week against the computer starting at hard and moving up until hardest i saw tons of improvements in my game. I was also a player that lost 200-300 games in a row, had 50 PPs and after this practice i was able to defeat players in the 300-500 PP range and being able to give a fight against 1000 PP players.

Computer might not play as good as most players, but imo it serves well as a bridge for new players to get used to online. You have the option to control the difficulty and there’s no lag, no wait time between matches. For example i found ken in hardest mode similar to many players i encountered, he pretty much spams shoryuken and gives you tons of opportunities to practice punishes. Sometimes i also challenged myself with things like: 1-button matches, footsies matches, ultra focused matches, just blocking, etc.

TIP: go to versus and choose random for your opponent. Helps you practice against different styles, and it becomes less boring.

PS: training mode vs computer also works, but i found that versus is more fun and it will improve your focus, training mode is just too forgiving.

Why is that?

Or you could not care about people have to say about your competency within ONLINE GAMING. Whether they’re behind a computer or in your face, treat them like blank envelopes.

One thing to try may be once you lose three times in a row to a certain character. Exit the online matches and go to the replay channel and look for videos where the character you play beat the character you are losing to. There should be at least one thing you can walk away with.

Also look for “small victories” within a match. Say just say you want to try out some new trick you learnt or you want to stop doing a bad habit. Make it your goal in a match to do that and be satisfied with at least that. Then you won’t feel so bad that you lost the match and will feel like continuing because you are improving.

A stick is not a magic solution. It’s just a control method, one that took me 3 months to get used to, yet you expect instant results…

Wow lay off the kid jesus christ. I thought the OP was well constructed.

Dude just stay at it. Watch a lot of match footage, tournament streams, stay current with the development of the game’s life. You might feel overwhelmed because SFIV is near the end of it’s cycle and the people that got in early know the game from front to back. Best advice is to private message few guys with mics and just ask them to spar with you.

Look at it this way:

Imagine you picked on ranked a beginner or someone who doesnt take the game and losses seriously (like me) and beat him 10 times in a row!
Voila, your PP and BP rises above 1000 in one day! Satisfied?

SF4 is the only fighting game where an arcade stick makes things more confusing rather than help! Game is so sensitive to buttons and stick motions, that you can set an Ultra by accident even if you sneeze!

Getting your ass kicked is what separates the strong from the weak. The weak will give up after getting destroyed a few times, while the person who wants to get better will keep playing until he can win. The ones who give up that quick are the people I don’t want to play against anyway, so I make it a mission to obliterate every new player to the best of my ability. It’s how I and the majority of players ended up wanting to become better, and so far it’s worked, so I see no reason to stop now.

Hit the training room and look for holes.

If you can, find someone who is also new/around your level and is willing to learn in addition to the advice people have given here.

It’s much more fun/ much less frustrating to level with someone who is around your skill cap rather than beating yourself bloody on 3kPP online warriors.

Key is communication though, talking with each other about what you did right/wrong and why things worked and such. If you find a trick the other guy can’t contest, abuse it, but realize that he may not understand why it works and maybe talk about it afterward.

Well, you basically have 3 options.

  1. Take a break, come back to Street Fighter/fighting games when you have a clear head and can actually learn from your losses, rather than be clouded by rage. (This is what I did pretty often when I first started.)
  2. Man up and be gracious in defeat. Is he doing the same thing over and over again? What do you have that can beat that? If you implement that tool and then he decides to do something else, repeat the process. No matter who you face, everyone can be beaten. Never forget that, you’re going against humans.
  3. Play offline. By offline I do NOT mean arcade mode, but training mode and trials. See if you can find another character you like through by testing out their combos in the trials, or stick with the same character(s) and work on your execution.

Pretty much everyone here has been in your position because its simply the nature of fighting games, but as said above, the time put in and the losses endured are what separate the strong and the weak.

It’s surprising what happens when you do this. I don’t get to play much at all lately bc my internet is garbage now, so I just end up playing at a friend’s house and after not playing for like a month in between sessions my play actually got noticeably better.

I think a better mindset would be to judge how good you are at the game considering your understanding of it and how successful you are at dealing with any situation. Less focus on how much you win or lose. Or in other words, there’s victories outside of just winning a round, game, or set. And that applies to any sort of fighting not matter how basic you believe it to be.

find offline scene in your area trust me its the fastest way to improve
dont have one? im sure you do but if you absolutely dont then you have to just find friends online to play endless with who are good and not assholes and play the same matchups over and over, learn 1 matchup at a tiem

  1. Pick Ryu
  2. practice Hadouken spacing in training mode
  3. practice beating the computer on arcade mode
  4. Once you feel comfortable with his attacks and spacing, jump online.
  5. Try to maintain a life lead. Do not throw a hadouken to start a round. Use simple, old school combos, like Jump HK into crouch HK(2hit combo), and low forward into hadouken(2hit combo).
  6. play defense. Zone, since you’re new, anti air with shoryuken, back+HK, standing LK, and fireballs.
  7. Win a few games like that, and keep learning new stuff.
  8. People are going to beat the shit out of you at first. Don’t give up.

Since my first time on forums five years ago, this makes only the second time I have literally laughed out loud from the title alone. I mean almost hollering, with no regard to who hears me. You sir, have earned a medal.

I love your rant by the way, you are great at expressing yourself. And yes, if you are completely new the chances are you’re going to be “grinding” up to others’ skill level to even win a match. Depending on the person, it could take from months to years.

Some of us have been playing since we were 6 or 7 years old. Problem with this genre is how much reflexes and training have to do with it. Think of it like with RPGs, you take x amount of time you to get to x level. Except the difference is a lot bigger.

Count how many times you can hit a person. It’s a habit for me even now when I’m learning a new game. If you can hit them once, you probably have the potential to hit them twice. Twice? Four times. Four? Eight. Hell, as far as I’m concerned you’re just fine if you don’t get perfected all the time. That’s when you should probably give up.

If you really like SF, I would start with an easier iteration of it. Popular opinion is that you can learn all the basics from it, but I would take any SF over 4 as a starter. lol